Speaker 3: [00:00:01] Okay. 
Speaker 8: Smile you're on Candid 
Speaker 10: Camera. 
Speaker 9: [00:00:13] I'll give you three guesses 
Speaker 1: wrong. I'm trying to figure out how to raise your volume because I can hear you the background but I can't understand [00:00:23] you 
Speaker 7: can hear your dog's. Well, 
Speaker 5: that's right. 
Speaker 10: He's not 
Speaker 5: there's Kevin da [00:00:33] technology. There you go. 
Speaker 11: Kevin you look like you're in a war room with the the world 
Speaker 5: map. I'm [00:00:43] coming to your house first Bob. There you 
Speaker 3: go. 
Speaker 11: And you guys hear me? All right, you can [00:00:53] yeah. 
Speaker 3: Can you hear us? 
Speaker 5: [00:01:17] Believe it or not. My wife might have just helped me. I can read laughing 
Speaker 10: now. I'll write down the day. Yeah, [00:01:28] okay, you could there 
Speaker 1: rust just hear you know 
Speaker 8: there is all right. So I'm going to call the meeting to order at [00:01:38] 7:01 this being Veterans Day. Armistice Day and in remembrance [00:01:48] of the many people who have both served in defense of our country and in many cases given their lives [00:01:58] for our country. I would ask that we observe a moment of silence and recall the sacrifices that they have made. So if you would join me in a moment [00:02:08] of 
Speaker 3: silence 
Speaker 10: [00:02:27] Thank you. 
Speaker 8: Alrighty onto regular business correspondence. I think I'm going to do correspondence into 
Speaker 1: waves 
Speaker 8: [00:02:38] because I have some correspondence a lot of Correspondence that needs a lot of attention. We have a correspondence from Pain flex and horschel and Sterling that we'll [00:02:48] get to later in the 
Speaker 10: game. 
Speaker 8: This one will hit up front from the division of Criminal Justice [00:02:58] Services to police officer and peace officer employeers 2020 annual validation of police officer and peace officer registry [00:03:08] data, I would assume Rod that this would apply to our file prior police. Is that 
Speaker 3: correct? Rod's muted 
Speaker 2: [00:03:21] That's correct. Okay, 
Speaker 8: so we need to submit a 20/20 
Speaker 7: validation. 
Speaker 8: For our fireplace. [00:03:31] There's a portal here in a 
Speaker 1: Web address I 
Speaker 8: can give that a shot Karen. I might need [00:03:41] your help, but I have an AM armed active member roster. So 
Speaker 10: that should be a big help. 
Speaker 8: So I will do that we have also. [00:03:52] Communication from New York State Homeland Security and Emergency Services will hit this later in the meeting. This is deadlines for the volunteer [00:04:02] firefighter and hands cancer benefit 
Speaker 10: program. 
Speaker 3: I have 
Speaker 7: fire districts of New York Mutual Insurance [00:04:12] Company, Marshall and 
Speaker 10: Sterling. 
Speaker 7: A day late and a dollar short and 
Speaker 8: preparation help you Budget Insurance for 2021. [00:04:22] We anticipate the following changes to your premium. They estimate the district's decrease. That's right begin to the D and premium will be approximately [00:04:33] would make Glenda zero to five percent that wasn't much help at 
Speaker 1: all and It's Whaley. 
Speaker 10: I [00:04:43] have a 
Speaker 8: posting. from shelter point for our [00:04:55] Hospital cash 
Speaker 9: Indemnity benefit 
Speaker 7: policy maybe Bob all forward this to you and see if it means anything to you. 
Speaker 11: Ya know that that does [00:05:05] I know that's in 
Speaker 7: effect. So, okay, so we have a 
Speaker 8: posting Hospital stay daily benefit Skilled Nursing Facility [00:05:15] daily benefit 
Speaker 4: For I posted I'm going to give it to you. Yeah, that's for 
Speaker 8: employees. Yep. So that's only for [00:05:26] here in Bob and 
Speaker 10: custodial correct? All right. The 
Speaker 8: rest of the correspondence is going to be more worked on. So we're going to go to that later on in [00:05:36] the 
Speaker 7: meeting. that being 
Speaker 8: said there are two sets of minutes that we need to review and approve I will deal first [00:05:46] with The minutes from October 20th 2020 which was the public hearing with a brief [00:05:56] meeting 
Speaker 10: afterwards 
Speaker 8: Karen and had Karen had forwarded us the minutes for us to review. I covet a [00:06:06] motion to approve. 
Speaker 11: I make a motion to 
Speaker 8: approve second, please 
Speaker 1: I can do. 
Speaker 8: Okay. Is there any discussion Corrections additions [00:06:16] deletions? All right. That being said what's your pleasure 
Speaker 1: Russ? I 
Speaker 10: Bob. [00:06:26] Hi Kevin. 
Speaker 8: I 
Speaker 3: Mike. Put it on my 
Speaker 8: [00:06:36] eye. All right, I vote aye as well that motion carries. Those minutes are approved because we have also the [00:06:47] minutes for the October 14th regular meeting covet again motion to 
Speaker 3: approve. 
Speaker 1: [00:06:57] Make a motion. We approve the me the valence. All right. I need a 
Speaker 8: second a second any discussion Corrections additions 
Speaker 3: deletions. 
Speaker 8: [00:07:09] Good job, Karen, Mike what you 
Speaker 10: pleasure? Mike 
Speaker 7: [00:07:38] Financial portion of the meeting 
Speaker 10: we have 
Speaker 8: all had the 
Speaker 1: opportunity to review 
Speaker 8: the vouchers [00:07:49] and a coveted motion to pay the bills per the abstract 
Speaker 10: make the motion. 
Speaker 8: Thank you Michael. I need a second 
Speaker 11: second for just a second for 
Speaker 8: discussion [00:07:59] or discussion any discussion 
Speaker 11: you got that one bill. That was Head West Clinton's name on it. Looks like Bob is fixing it. 
Speaker 8: [00:08:09] Well, we have I saw we have a afforded us and copied us on [00:08:19] a Series of bills that were made out correctly to East Clinton so Bob I would assume that you would throw away the bills that were made [00:08:29] out to where the invoice is made out to West Clinton and attach the East Clinton bills to that voucher. That's correct. All right, any other [00:08:39] discussion additions deletions 
Speaker 11: provided I didn't sign that check so you can sign it in lieu of me. 
Speaker 2: Yep, I'll sign [00:08:49] it. 
Speaker 10: All right anybody 
Speaker 3: else? 
Speaker 8: All right included in that was that fifty six hundred dollar bill for [00:08:59] the ambulance will will do that next. All right, so that being 
Speaker 3: said 
Speaker 8: Russ. What's your pleasure? 
Speaker 1: All right [00:09:09] Mike 
Speaker 8: I Kevin I 
Speaker 10: Bob. Hi 
Speaker 8: Milo died is well motion to pay the bills [00:09:19] carries. Okay, we all have had opportunity to review the Nancial statements I would move that we approve [00:09:29] the financials as I do find the bank balances and so on to be an order with that which mr. Pass the cost submitted and Bob so I [00:09:39] do move 
Speaker 10: that and looking for a second. Thank you second. 
Speaker 8: All right, take your choice Karen any 
Speaker 11: discussion [00:09:49] Give a question for Jim pasok off. If I mail. Yeah today. I'm here store. I saw some 
Speaker 4: it looked like we were in the negative [00:09:59] for expenditures on some of the line items thing was page three. I don't have one in front of me. 
Speaker 11: Is everything [00:10:09] okay as far as our 
Speaker 5: remaining page 3 is the 
Speaker 4: income? Okay, then it was for we've gotten we've taken in more [00:10:19] income than what we had budgeted. Okay, that's number one. Number two on the expense side. What we're really interested in is that the area's [00:10:30] stay under budget? For example, you got the salary stay under budget the equipment stays under? Budget there about four pages of contractual [00:10:40] expenses as long as the total is under budget. We're okay and the same thing on the the benefits. Okay, the benefits are on seven of eight. [00:10:50] Okay. So then we're done in 
Speaker 11: the negative on any 
Speaker 4: know you might be in on one or two line items. But in total you're fine, okay [00:11:00] on that 
Speaker 7: the beginning of the year next we make that grand sweeping correction motion and We're told it that makes everything good but [00:11:10] our expenditures year-to-date looking for that real quick 
Speaker 4: that will be on page a debate. The total expenses [00:11:20] so far this year our 344,000. So we got two hundred three thousand headed into essentially number [00:11:30] and December November and December and that 
Speaker 7: leaves us some cash to carry over into first quarter 
Speaker 10: next year. Correct 
Speaker 11: before we get all our insurance [00:11:40] is coming in and 
Speaker 10: March. Yeah early March 
Speaker 8: we've been getting the check early March so I don't foresee that a an issue [00:11:51] All right, and now the independent audit that was filed with the town. I want to confirm that correct. Yes. It was [00:12:01] and it was filed with the Comptroller's office. Is that 
Speaker 10: correct? Yes. 
Speaker 8: Alright, so we're good on that and then [00:12:13] we had a large expenditure on the ambulance $5,600. 
Speaker 7: That was the oil cooling pump is oil coolers that will Cooler. Is that what that [00:12:23] was 
Speaker 8: Kevin Kevin 
Speaker 2: Russell? The area 
Speaker 8: yes. All right, and it was [00:12:33] a few thousand dollars worth of Parts. But a lot of Labor looks like they basically had to take two thing apart from the front and from from the doghouse on the inside. We do [00:12:43] need a motion to approve that $5,600 and make it official because / are purchasing policy it exceeded the amount [00:12:53] that Kevin was able to approve we all were. Sure that it was going to be at least five thousand dollars, but we did go over so we do need kind of a wrench [00:13:03] approval for $5,600 to repair the ambulance. Oh, I would so move. 
Speaker 10: I second 
Speaker 8: okay any discussion? [00:13:14] All right, that would go has 
Speaker 11: no reminder to the Commissioners that we really can't vote via email 
Speaker 4: [00:13:24] behind the scenes. 
Speaker 10: Yep. All right, Bob. What's your pleasure? I'm Kevin. I Russ. [00:13:34] Hi Mike. 
Speaker 8: Hi. Okay, I vote aye that motion carries. Anything 
Speaker 7: else for mr. Pasok [00:13:44] ha 
Speaker 11: Yes, Bob Bob Simon. Where are you? 
Speaker 7: He's at the firehouse. 
Speaker 11: Yeah. [00:13:58] Yeah, we're wondering if we want to do the gasb for for the low sap portion of because part [00:14:08] of the bill that we're paying right now 
Speaker 4: for pain Flex is an audit of bill. There's you thousands of dollars there 
Speaker 11: [00:14:20] Jim. You know what I'm talking 
Speaker 4: about? Yeah. You don't have a choice. You have to do it. 
Speaker 11: You have to go through the way we're going. 
Speaker 8: But yes, there were two there were two choices though, Jim you say [00:14:30] you don't have it. We don't have a choice. 
Speaker 7: There was the New York state 
Speaker 8: law sap order package for a fee of $495 and there was the complete. Eat 
Speaker 7: [00:14:40] gasb 73 package for twice that amount or 950 dollars. I think last year we did the 495. What's the 
Speaker 4: difference? The difference is that they [00:14:50] they provide the Actuarial unfunded liability and they put that in footnote poor [00:15:00] as a footnote so it can go into the financial statements. If they don't do what the Auditors are going to do it and they're probably going to charge him four times as much as Drop em Flex [00:15:10] charges. 
Speaker 11: So you're sure which what are yours? 
Speaker 4: You're outside of editors? Okay, and this case it would be RBC, okay. 
Speaker 7: [00:15:21] So your recommendation is we do the gasb 73 yes or 950 dollars. So that being said thanks Bob for bring it up while he was 
Speaker 10: here. 
Speaker 8: [00:15:34] I haven't a document here that they are asking me to sign authorizing. 
Speaker 3: Either one of those 
Speaker 1: two packages. 
Speaker 8: [00:15:44] So on mr. Past 
Speaker 7: coughs recommendation, I would move that I be 
Speaker 8: authorized to sign this East Clinton fire district service award program [00:15:54] document authorizing a preparation of financial statement disclosures for the complete gasb 73 package for a fee of [00:16:04] 950 dollars and I covered a second. 
Speaker 10: So I get it. 
Speaker 8: Okay any discussion? [00:16:18] All right. That being said Bob. What's your pleasure? 
Speaker 10: Hi, Mike. Hi, Russ, I [00:16:28] Kevin I 
Speaker 8: live or die as well that motion carries. I will sign 
Speaker 7: that as we speak. There's a copy [00:16:38] here. 
Speaker 10: What's today eleven eleven twenty 
Speaker 7: and I will get both the 
Speaker 8: original and the copy to you Karen's once a you can mail in the other so you can 
Speaker 10: [00:16:48] file. 
Speaker 5: Thank you. 
Speaker 4: You should also have another a contract for an next years with pain Flex. 
Speaker 7: [00:16:59] Well and see what else we have here. 
Speaker 1: But we just signed it one of the one of the bills [00:17:09] this month was $4,000 for pain Flex that if I remember right that was from a date and this year to a date next year. Is that what we're 
Speaker 4: talking? That's what I'm talking that's what I'm talking about. But I think there's a contract [00:17:19] you have to sign with it. 
Speaker 7: No, I don't see it. Oh, wait a minute. So yeah, there it is on the on the contractors on this service award [00:17:29] program is the base fee of 4,000 which we paid and the 
Speaker 10: 950. 
Speaker 11: Steve a question did they mention [00:17:39] both low sap programs on that sheet or is it just the 
Speaker 4: historical one? 
Speaker 7: [00:17:52] I see no breakdown or no mention of A defined benefit or defined contribution [00:18:02] or differentiation between 
Speaker 11: okay. That's a phone call. I'll call them tomorrow and 
Speaker 4: ask the question is that all-encompassing? [00:18:12] because I 
Speaker 11: I haven't seen a lot of documentation to split the two. Yeah. Alright. 
Speaker 7: Alright, but we still we [00:18:22] still got this document that we've signed and we will send into them. 
Speaker 10: I'll get down to Karen. 
Speaker 2: I need a copy of that contract 
Speaker 10: [00:18:32] with. All right. Any other questions for 
Speaker 8: mr. Pat's a cough? [00:18:46] Already, then that being said Thank Jim. Have a good evening 
Speaker 4: your taupe. Good 
Speaker 9: night. Yeah, good 
Speaker 8: night. All right. Mr. Estes would 
Speaker 1: say [00:18:59] 13 
Speaker 11: calls for the month 
Speaker 9: of October 90 as of 
Speaker 11: October 31st 
Speaker 9: [00:19:09] the drill this month will be held on the 11th. Excuse me, 11:17 and it will be a combination drill with fire [00:19:19] and EMS. We will not be having an EMS drill this month because it falls on Thanksgiving week that's going to break. So what we're going to do is Heavy [00:19:30] extrication with airbag lift and also walk through the setting up actually setting up of a LZ which is very good practice [00:19:40] that Steve will attest to and Steve as a secondary backup. You have not heard anything back from the three members that received the letters [00:19:50] as far as not taking their physicals 
Speaker 8: yet, right. We sent three letters out to the individuals 
Speaker 7: who did not get a physical. Well in the month of October and forming [00:20:00] them that they could not participate and they needed to contact either Don or myself to State their 
Speaker 8: intentions relative to further participation. I have [00:20:10] not gotten any 
Speaker 7: answer from either that any of the three 
Speaker 3: nor I 
Speaker 9: nor I all they were I Mike [00:20:20] I think your weight over the low sap points requirements and Including with the defined [00:20:30] contribution plan with the members reviewed there at the company meeting stated clearly. There will not be any covid points [00:20:40] and my feeling was totally in support of the board of fire Commissioners on that. It was not a necessary thing to do [00:20:50] officers were also reminded that the officer points which were permitted by the board of Fire. Runners last year are [00:21:00] not I'm not giving them out if the officer did not indeed earn said points. So right now there's probably three officers who will not [00:21:10] be receiving their points for different reasons. But when I said last year when we went through [00:21:20] and I said, please let the officer points remain it was more for the people to take the position that the points would not be awarded for. And they are not being [00:21:30] awarded free. So that was brought back up where people basically stood Steve saw it. So everybody should be in board in the company [00:21:40] as far as those points are concerned. I am dogmatic about it care and does a fantastic job and it's posted every month [00:21:50] for everybody to see where they where they will potentially be. Same thing was done with the She points the ability to [00:22:00] respond points, which includes the drill drills and the module in the physicals. The highest volume of members are absolutely [00:22:10] if not done on the brink of being completed with all that. We will have a Makeup Session in December. There's a number of members [00:22:20] that need OSHA and so our December will be concerned with getting everybody wrapped up that needs to be wrapped. The up also members were told that they [00:22:30] could contact myself or a deputy chief to get a Makeup Session One on One they were also told that we will not chase them down. [00:22:40] But we're making every point to validate their response, but they must have all that completed to respond. And then I guess reiteration [00:22:50] that they had two months to make it up in the following year which they could not respond in that period of time is that Correct. Steve 
Speaker 7: as my understanding. [00:23:00] Yes. Okay, 
Speaker 9: so it's it's very clear and it's I will not have a member respond. Well as met the OSHA standards [00:23:10] because I'm the guy that's going to say it share a cell with Bubba and I'm far too old for that. The old extrication tools are on their way to North Collins. [00:23:20] They may have arrived already. I haven't heard I'm sure I will when they get there the rehab vehicle has been winterized. [00:23:30] I said that remember and I believe Steve you wanted me to bring this up for approval of the Santa parade on [00:23:40] well in calling Santa I don't know Sam's going to be there but the parade on 1219 similar to the parade that we did for Memorial Day. We can't do a [00:23:50] in person Santa Claus gift-giving kite type of thing, but we will if it's cleared will Way detailed [00:24:00] map drive through the district only when we made in our district on the 19th of December 
Speaker 7: Saturday. [00:24:10] All right, so that either be 99% in 
Speaker 9: District. Yep. See where we cross over. Yeah, I would say ninety nine point nine. There [00:24:20] may be a but 
Speaker 4: yes. All right. 
Speaker 7: Any questions for done? 
Speaker 3: All right. Yeah, 
Speaker 11: go ahead [00:24:32] on the rehab vehicle. We need to coordinate some 
Speaker 3: activities. 
Speaker 7: Yeah, we can do that 
Speaker 4: offline. Okay, that's fine. [00:24:42] And 
Speaker 11: we have to vote on that out-of-district. 
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was gonna I was going to move that we had authorized the the company on the 19th 
Speaker 11: [00:24:54] to use 
Speaker 7: the vehicles in District for the annual you got. 
Speaker 10: Whatever you want to call it. 
Speaker 8: [00:25:05] holiday grown holiday 
Speaker 4: run 
Speaker 7: It loo in lieu of our ability to do with Santa type of activity. [00:25:15] So I covered a 
Speaker 4: second second for discussion. Okay 
Speaker 11: discussion, give them a range of dates. Don't pin it down to one day. 
Speaker 7: [00:25:27] All right. Yeah in case we have fall weather. So between the 15th and the 24th. [00:25:37] That somebody seconded that 
Speaker 11: I did. All right, I'm good. 
Speaker 7: Alright, so we have a modification the motion for the you got that Karen [00:25:47] between fifteen and twenty fourth any other discussion. Kevin what's your 
Speaker 10: what you vote? Aye Bob [00:25:57] Mike, I Russ 
Speaker 1: I 
Speaker 7: live or die as well that 
Speaker 8: motion carries. Mr. Bathrooms. Are you 
Speaker 10: present? [00:26:07] They 
Speaker 8: named mr. 
Speaker 10: Russell. 
Speaker 8: It's back up step up to the microphone. We can barely hear you. 
Speaker 2: [00:26:22] All right, he's close to home guys. It takes a little while to get there. 
Speaker 8: The only thing I have 
Speaker 4: is 
Speaker 9: 63 [00:26:32] is got an antifreeze 
Speaker 7: leak and I 
Speaker 4: talked to Fleet Pride and they think it's the water pump 
Speaker 7: 63 being the mini pumper, [00:26:42] correct? 
Speaker 4: I went down there. I talked to him 
Speaker 9: I said you worked on it this spring with that oil leak that did you mess with anything with the [00:26:53] antifreeze? They said 
Speaker 10: no. 
Speaker 7: All right. So we're going to get that in and get it looked at it. 
Speaker 9: So next week you told me to call him and we'll make an 
Speaker 7: appointment. All right. [00:27:03] We got our policy. So you do what you 
Speaker 10: do? Um 
Speaker 7: Okay, let me see anybody there 
Speaker 10: for support [00:27:15] and he 
Speaker 7: there he there for fire police anybody there for Rescue Squad. 
Speaker 9: Yes me. 
Speaker 2: [00:27:27] I think 13 calls for the month that puts us around a hundred sixteen for the year. Pretty much famous is back [00:27:37] in service, of course, and we plan on doing another CPR class for four more members either in November or [00:27:47] early 
Speaker 10: December. 
Speaker 2: And of course Donner Dimension, we're combining the EMS trail with fire drill. So [00:27:57] that's it for EMS. 
Speaker 7: All right, and safety 
Speaker 10: wise 
Speaker 7: I will say that [00:28:07] the department is doing moderately well and wearing their 
Speaker 10: mass and 
Speaker 7: I don't think it's necessary at this point. But you know in [00:28:17] in the meeting room where social distancing is really impossible to maintain man should be worn at all times and [00:28:27] in the Bay's where social distancing cannot be maintained Mass may be worn at people's [00:28:37] discretion. But quick call when you have a couple people in front of a apparatus 
Speaker 10: compartment door 
Speaker 7: Mass should be warned and to [00:28:47] Timmy bath Rick's credit you did mention that it's a that the department meeting but the the we're doing okay, okay, but we cannot get complacent in this aspect. 
Speaker 5: [00:28:57] All 
Speaker 7: right think that settles it for. The reports 
Speaker 11: [00:29:10] Steve. Yes, we get a report on the status of the election 
Speaker 7: while we were going to we got that got it on the agenda. Okay? Okay, I do [00:29:20] have it on the agenda. Okay membership. Let's do 
Speaker 8: membership. Um, I have a letter here that was given to me Karen copy [00:29:30] of and said he was going to get you a copy from 
Speaker 2: Kim Williams formerly Kim klimenko 
Speaker 8: [00:29:40] is with a heavy heart that I sit my submit my resignation from active membership. I have moved out of the district and can no longer make calls. I would like to remain a social memory in continuing [00:29:50] the position of secretary. So she needs to make that modification to the active member roster. [00:30:00] We also had an 
Speaker 2: application from a new New for new member 
Speaker 8: who is local and who has [00:30:12] firefighter 1 and firefighter to if I'm not mistaken. Is that right done? 
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right. 
Speaker 8: All right. So we need what was his what was his name? 
Speaker 2: Stephen Weiss? [00:30:22] Stephen 
Speaker 8: Weiss. All right. So Karen did you are you in receipt of that 
Speaker 6: application? I have the application. It's ready to go for the background check. 
Speaker 8: [00:30:32] All right, so we need to authorize Karen. 
Speaker 6: To 
Speaker 8: submit for the background checks and that being said if it comes back in December, we need [00:30:42] to vote in at that point if we vote in the affirmative and he passes the background checks not necessarily in that 
Speaker 10: order 
Speaker 8: then we would [00:30:52] authorize him to get his physical. So I don't think we need a motion. I think we just stated that for the purpose 
Speaker 10: of 
Speaker 8: [00:31:03] it being. In the minutes and I will also say Ed while we have you. Kevin Nelson [00:31:14] is put an application in I think that he get his physical. Is that where we are where he had already gotten his physical before we had the new his driver's license [00:31:24] number bounce back. So I need a valid driver's license from him Ed. 
Speaker 7: Okay. All right, but I 
Speaker 8: tried to put him on the I tried to [00:31:34] put him on the lens system and it said he was invalid. Okay. Alright so we can look into 
Speaker 11: that Steve [00:31:44] West what's his status at this moment in 
Speaker 8: time? He's awaiting. He's awaiting a beef. Of 
Speaker 11: course. No, as far as [00:31:54] being a being an active 
Speaker 4: District member driving at all that stuff. What what is the what is his 
Speaker 10: status? What do we call his status [00:32:04] done? 
Speaker 8: Is he he needs to take the course, 
Speaker 10: right? 
Speaker 2: [00:32:16] No, that's Stephen Weiss. Okay Malcolm Kevin Kevin Nelson. 
Speaker 7: Oh the kid [00:32:26] he will have to take Sports. He would be called a probationary exterior firefighter. So he's probationary 
Speaker 11: disappoint [00:32:36] the other I guess my question Steve is we don't have a valid driver's license for him which is required for your application. [00:32:47] What what is what is his status as far as the district? 
Speaker 8: Does he have a pager? 
Speaker 2: I don't [00:32:57] know. Does he have a pager? 
Speaker 10: no, no 
Speaker 8: that is not that is not an active member until we get a driver's license [00:33:07] and we get we and at that point we can we have I believe a [00:33:17] standard for him responding as a probationary members that correct with with a sponsor and so on. That is correct. [00:33:27] Alright, so when he when we get a valid driver's license, then he can get a pager and then he can respond as a probationary 
Speaker 3: member 
Speaker 7: [00:33:40] you do not have to have a driver's. Is to be an active member 
Speaker 10: no. 
Speaker 8: Because we have that would disqualify some people [00:33:50] right who are very important 
Speaker 10: right 
Speaker 8: in theory. I would you can you can get a New York [00:34:00] state ID. That's not a driver's license and we could require that but for our policy, we don't as of 
Speaker 3: yet. 
Speaker 1: I've mentioned something [00:34:10] along that 
Speaker 10: line. What's that Russ? I don't know if 
Speaker 1: this has been changed or not. But on page 10 active member policy [00:34:20] item number for active members shall have a valid New York state driver's license now have we modified that that's [00:34:30] maybe something that's been 
Speaker 10: changed. You can get them 
Speaker 5: jr. 
Speaker 7: That's that's a good question. I'm we had In about this and [00:34:40] for people who did not have a driver's license, the the my recollection is that we thought we couldn't require 
Speaker 10: that. 
Speaker 1: Well, [00:34:50] we obviously need to get that out of the active member policy that because I had that question to go along with rods application for membership tonight because I look back and [00:35:00] I said we'll wait a minute you're in direct opposition to what it says on page 10 have a valid driver's 
Speaker 11: license and that's a fairly new policy that we put in place 
Speaker 7: [00:35:10] Rod. What's your what's your counsel? If we have people who don't have a valid driver's license, but 
Speaker 2: I [00:35:20] don't see where there is a requirement to be a firefighter that you need a driver's license now granted you are [00:35:30] the firefighter is restricted to cannot even drive to alarms because they're driving on your nickel. So it's difficult for someone who does not live close to the Firehouse to be a firefighter. [00:35:40] They can't drive there, but I don't see where a driver's license is necessary to be a firefighter. 
Speaker 7: What would be reasonable that doesn't [00:35:50] most don't most most States Supply a 
Speaker 8: picture ID. That's not a driver's license. 
Speaker 2: [00:36:00] And what would be the purpose of that? I'm not asking I'm just asking if 
Speaker 8: there is would be a purpose to that 
Speaker 2: if there's a purple if the purpose is to provide some sort of governmental identification [00:36:11] then not only a state issued ID. But a passport might be worth might be enough and any form of governmental ID might [00:36:21] be acceptable. But I don't see where I where I government-issued identification card is necessary [00:36:31] to be a volunteer firefighter. 
Speaker 1: They probably get most of the people that are under 18. I was so mad don't waste most high schools give them an identification card 
Speaker 10: a school ID [00:36:41] card, 
Speaker 1: you know, that would be sufficient out. But my thing is here under the active member policy is simply State they must have in your driver's license. So [00:36:51] it seems like we've got to address that. In page 10 of the actor member policy. 
Speaker 7: Is there anything else on them active membership policy while [00:37:01] we're there rust that you see that that you think is 
Speaker 10: questionable. Well, let's see. I've got down here. Hold on a 
Speaker 3: second. 
Speaker 10: [00:37:20] No, I'm 
Speaker 1: but later when we get to the application to that raft it Ron's got I've got a few other questions. Like I say one of them is this one right here. [00:37:31] And we'll address that when we get to that because 
Speaker 7: nothing else an active member policy. 
Speaker 1: No, it's just that like I said do 
Speaker 7: say would you would you care to move that we removed would you care [00:37:41] to move that we remove that requirement from the active member 
Speaker 10: policy? 
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I like to have somebody else discuss it and 
Speaker 7: see what they're all [00:37:51] that we can discuss it once we get a motion on the 
Speaker 1: table. All right. I make a motion that on page 10 of the current [00:38:02] East Clinton fire district policy book under active member of policy number for that be deleted where it requires. They have an active Alan York state [00:38:12] driver's license. 
Speaker 7: All right, I'll second for purpose and just gotten any discussion. 
Speaker 11: Dave just as long as [00:38:22] everybody knows that if they don't have a driver's license on file with us, they cannot [00:38:32] drive to any activities because we're there on our 
Speaker 4: dime taking calls for insurance. 
Speaker 11: [00:38:42] There is a hazard there. 
Speaker 10: Okay, that's a point. Well taken if you don't have one you can't submit 
Speaker 11: one. Yeah, but they can [00:38:52] still get in the car and drive and then have an accident and then come and say that 
Speaker 4: potentially that well they were responding to a call [00:39:02] and was emergency and they had to do it and it's it's just something to know about and make sure all the chief [00:39:12] officers watch out for that type of stuff. 
Speaker 7: All right, anybody any other 
Speaker 10: discussion? 
Speaker 7: All right, [00:39:22] Mike. What's your pleasure? 
Speaker 10: Kevin hi Russ. 
Speaker 1: I 
Speaker 7: [00:39:32] I've authorized well that motion carries. We will Karen you'll modify that a 
Speaker 5: policy for you. 
Speaker 10: Thank you. 
Speaker 7: [00:39:50] Because of the new requirements that we have relative to the 
Speaker 8: call a supplemental cancer insurance. Is that what we call it the 
Speaker 10: [00:40:00] I had it right here. 
Speaker 7: [00:40:11] Enhance 
Speaker 8: cancer benefit program. 
Speaker 7: We are making an effort to add to the active member roster the New York Street [00:40:21] New York State training identification number Don. Have we had a luck getting 
Speaker 10: all 
Speaker 7: the ten or eleven interior? Firefighters [00:40:31] numbers as 
Speaker 6: Karen? I do have those numbers. I got them late. Got them today. 
Speaker 7: Okay. Alright, so we have them for all the interior 
Speaker 10: firefighters. [00:40:42] I believe 
Speaker 7: so. All right. So at that at that point we can submit a firefighter roster which we must do on [00:40:52] or before 12 1 of this 
Speaker 11: year. Steve I got a question and maybe Rod can help those numbers. Do we have the numbers [00:41:02] for the people that are exterior that were interior? And anybody that's left in the last five years that were interior and have left the company. 
Speaker 4: Do [00:41:12] we need those numbers for those other people raw debt, maybe a question for you? 
Speaker 2: What are their numbers given out for exterior only firefighters? 
Speaker 7: [00:41:25] Any course you would take with New York State. You 
Speaker 1: got to have your training ID, 
Speaker 2: right? Okay, so we should we should keep track of those numbers. 
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that was our intent. We [00:41:35] Bob did not stop at Getting it numbers for interior only we pursue we are pursuing everyone's numbers, but we have them all I think for the interiors [00:41:45] that are on that roster which would include people who are currently exterior but have been interior in the 
Speaker 10: last 
Speaker 4: is it 5 
Speaker 10: years 5 years, 
Speaker 11: [00:41:55] so I thought it was wait a minute for if you're active. I thought it was forever until you've left the company and then five years [00:42:05] out. 
Speaker 10: I think we just included 
Speaker 7: those people at our as 
Speaker 4: a Okay. 
Speaker 11: [00:42:15] Okay. So you've answered my question. We've got out 
Speaker 7: numbers. Yeah, we have the number so we can supply 
Speaker 10: a roster. 
Speaker 7: [00:42:27] So they're suggesting that we mailed this form it 
Speaker 3: mid-november. 
Speaker 10: [00:42:39] It doesn't say to whom. 
Speaker 4: There's an office in New York state. I forget the name of it that that [00:42:49] stuff the keeping track of it. 
Speaker 7: Well, there's an address at the bottom of the form. So caring can you [00:42:59] I mean, can you put a roster together with what the information you 
Speaker 6: have? So you want the roster for the 10 the 10 [00:43:09] Interiors? 
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it would include the New York state ID 
Speaker 6: number roster with their ID numbers. Yeah. 
Speaker 10: Okay. 
Speaker 6: [00:43:19] All right together and send it to you Steve. 
Speaker 7: I will give you this form and then you can mail 
Speaker 6: it. Oh, okay. How's 
Speaker 10: that? That's fine. [00:43:29] All right. I'll put it with the pencil X paperwork. Okay. All right, so that takes care of cancer insurance roster. 
Speaker 11: [00:43:40] If any if we have any new Interiors, we've got to get them on the our insurance because I think this new fellows coming in he's [00:43:50] going to be an interior I think right. So we we've got to remember to 
Speaker 7: add him. We at we have two potential people to add. 
Speaker 11: Okay, [00:44:00] it's great. Yeah one who has 
Speaker 8: the credentials and one 
Speaker 7: who is looking to get the credentials 
Speaker 11: but right now they're not the our insurance company. 
Speaker 7: [00:44:10] They're not active. I don't think we should add them till they're active. Okay. 
Speaker 1: All right, 
Speaker 2: one more thing. Yeah, 
Speaker 11: [00:44:21] I got a letter here from 
Speaker 10: Tim O'Dell. Oh, yeah, 
Speaker 2: he is he is resigning from the group [00:44:31] sport group effective 10 12 20 20. He I assume he is still [00:44:41] staying with choir police, but I have not. Spurred contrary to that, but he has resigned from the support group. 
Speaker 7: Yeah, we had [00:44:51] that and read that into the meeting minutes in October. Thanks 
Speaker 10: in you did okay, but yeah 
Speaker 1: not be the right time. But Karen sent out [00:45:01] a thing listing the people that had to physicals and I sent a reply back to her because Tim Odell was listed twice. I believe I told her 10th or 12th, October 2nd [00:45:11] and 16th, maybe and I tried I wonder did he get to physicals I hope Being billed for to or 
Speaker 7: he had a return to duty physical is my recollection [00:45:21] and then he had his regular 
Speaker 1: physical. Okay, so they did was a reason for him being there twice. Yep. 
Speaker 7: Okay that your recollection down also. Yes, 
Speaker 10: [00:45:31] okay. 
Speaker 7: All right, so we did all get a list of the people who took their physicals and it was just a pass or a fail on that, right? [00:45:43] Yes. Yeah, so we all have that 
Speaker 10: list. All right. That letter was sent to 
Speaker 8: do we want to talk 
Speaker 3: about 
Speaker 10: [00:45:55] the election 
Speaker 7: Karen you and I have had a lot of communication back and forth. The district election is at the Valley [00:46:05] Community Church from 40 afternoon till nine in the afternoon. You have the three election workers and [00:46:15] a 
Speaker 10: door guard so to speak 
Speaker 6: right? Yes. 
Speaker 10: Correct. You have all those people lined up. 
Speaker 7: [00:46:26] You have met with the people at the Valley Community Church. You said you were going over to 
Speaker 8: get a lay of the land. Did you get a good look at 
Speaker 6: the I went today and there I'm going [00:46:36] to meet them there at 3 o'clock on Election night. We're going to get we have the setup setup for the tables. We're going to have in one door out. Another [00:46:46] door will have the you know, the tables will be just so people can come in sign in drop fill out the ballot drop the ballot and go out the door. 
Speaker 7: [00:46:56] Okay, and there's it's spacious enough that you feel 
Speaker 6: comfortable very spacious. It's got a high ceiling. It's a big room. They're moving everything towards [00:47:06] the back. They just want enough seats for who's working. They don't want people hanging around but who's going to do that? Right? Yeah, who am I went [00:47:16] to Staples today? I'm bored box of 60 pounds plenty of the two of the great big things of wipes the [00:47:26] Acting antibacterial stuff for your hands and I bought some poster board to make some posters because I figured we can just I can just make a sign. 
Speaker 10: All right 
Speaker 8: [00:47:36] now Bob Simon. We have a supply of just 
Speaker 7: the regular Duty Mass. I would like a 
Speaker 10: box 
Speaker 7: [00:47:46] available at the election. So if people show up without a mask we can offer that to 
Speaker 2: them. Recharging it smells [00:47:56] like a true Treasurer. Yeah, I know will have will have a package of Mass fair for them. 
Speaker 7: All right, and if any of the election workers, so that would be caring [00:48:06] the three election inspectors or the person at the door 
Speaker 10: is 
Speaker 7: desirous of an n95 mask agreed that they would have access to those [00:48:16] who I know we have some n95 that we want to make available to them 
Speaker 10: also. Okay, 
Speaker 6: I'll put a note out to everybody and see if that's something that they like [00:48:26] I'll like I'll let you know Bob. 
Speaker 10: Yeah, please. 
Speaker 7: Alright anything else we have to I will show up after the election [00:48:36] and help to 
Speaker 10: sanitize. 
Speaker 7: What was the deadline for people to submit [00:48:46] their applications to be put on the ballot for 
Speaker 6: commissioner 18th 
Speaker 7: the 18th of this month? We have another 
Speaker 10: week, correct? All right, we [00:48:56] have just the tomb so far, correct. Yes. All right. There 
Speaker 11: is the church satisfied with the insurance coverage. 
Speaker 6: [00:49:06] They didn't ask I didn't think to ask them about it, but we went over everything today. She didn't ask me for anything. So she would have done. 
Speaker 10: Okay you Karen have 
Speaker 8: any? [00:49:18] Concerns relative 
Speaker 7: to this or any more questions or any or need of any more help or what can we do 
Speaker 6: for you now? I'm just going to put up a sign [00:49:28] outside the door. That just says masks required to enter the building. 
Speaker 7: All right, and are we going to put a sign on the door? The firehouse [00:49:38] advising that the elections are at 
Speaker 6: the I'm going to put a sign directing people to the Valley Community Church, and it's a we missed rod. 
Speaker 2: You soon as I've got it covered. 
Speaker 10: [00:49:48] Hey. We're going to run with 
Speaker 7: that. Now West Clinton update. I think they're meeting tonight. I called [00:49:58] Todd specifically to inquire and to understand 
Speaker 10: what 
Speaker 7: their objection [00:50:08] was to the contract to see if we could alleviate any of those concerns. I have not heard back. I expect to hear back from him after the meeting that 
Speaker 10: I think they also have tonight. So I [00:50:18] did make that contact. 
Speaker 8: A district policies. I don't know Rod 
Speaker 2: submitted this evening. 
Speaker 8: [00:50:29] A policy for active 
Speaker 10: membership and people had 
Speaker 7: opportunity [00:50:39] to look at that. Do we want to look at that or two people want to browse that and come back to that next month? There's not a lot to it. So [00:50:49] I'll 
Speaker 2: looking for consensus here some input and 
Speaker 11: consensus. Did you put it on the screen? I will put 
Speaker 7: it on the screen sure our Shelf. 
Speaker 10: [00:50:59] their share bada-bing or as we say it worked. Well, bam, 
Speaker 2: you [00:51:09] might 
Speaker 1: have two questions about it 
Speaker 10: bad. Um, 
Speaker 1: well my first question is What [00:51:19] was missing from the current policy that we needed this but I see it in the current policy they mentioned probationary period And there's none no mention [00:51:29] of it in this and I don't know if that's something we should consider having their not consider having 
Speaker 7: I think the intent here was more to define the process because we seem to get muddled with the 
Speaker 10: [00:51:39] process. 
Speaker 1: Well, like you say in the current one on I think it's page. 
Speaker 10: What was it 43 or [00:51:49] looking at it earlier 
Speaker 2: at the district level? There's not a probationary process. There's a probationary process at the company level which the company can certainly [00:51:59] put whatever probation requirements. They wanted to put as far as the distribution is concerned you either have an active member or you do not 
Speaker 1: okay, so they [00:52:09] have another application. For the company that 
Speaker 7: could be mentioned in this and 
Speaker 11: though they rust they start with the company [00:52:19] and then the company brings the member of the company to us and we say yay or nay. 
Speaker 1: Okay, so I see in page 19. It says the fire company [00:52:29] May impose a probationary period for the applicant. So that was in the application for membership in the current thing [00:52:39] on page 19. This is an application for membership. It doesn't mention then. I don't know if it needs to be an error or whether you want to have it 
Speaker 2: in there. Our company if the [00:52:49] company takes someone in as an active member and they send it on to the board the board other accepting them as an active member or not. Now the company has requirements [00:52:59] for that active member such as the active member has to jump through fiery Hoops every Monday and he doesn't do that. Then the company can dismiss him as a member [00:53:09] of the company which automatically results in him being dismissed as a member of the district. 
Speaker 11: Rod I have a question on that can the 
Speaker 4: district 
Speaker 11: [00:53:19] override a an 
Speaker 4: action such as that to being 
Speaker 11: unreasonable and is a second part to that question does the district [00:53:29] have any liability if we 
Speaker 2: don't know the district has no liability and no you can't override what the company does if the company takes a member in and then ends [00:53:39] up throwing him out whatever purpose that's the company's prerogative. 
Speaker 1: What does the company have a separate printed Book of Rules? 
Speaker 2: [00:53:50] I don't know 
Speaker 3: that 
Speaker 2: I mean, I know and really really it that, you know, I don't want to be you know sound you know hurt [00:54:00] but that's really not the district's issue District can say this is what we want to see in an application from the company. And the company gives us the application [00:54:10] with the background checks and the driver's license if they have one and then the district tax on it if the company decides to throw somebody out whether they're on probation [00:54:20] or not. The district has no say in that 
Speaker 10: process. Okay. I 
Speaker 1: just I just saw that was previous in there and wondering if we wanted to left out. [00:54:30] And now since we already removed the qualification that they have to have a driver's license. We need to change the wording. The last sentence [00:54:40] on the first page says the application will not be considered to be complete unless the applicants driver's license and result of background check are included. So 
Speaker 2: yeah, [00:54:51] if you look a little further up in that in that Paragraph it says the application must include a copy of the applicants driver's license if the applicant possesses 
Speaker 1: one, right? [00:55:01] I see that but here it says they've got to have it. So I'm thinking maybe after the license you put if possessed or something like that because I realized [00:55:11] before if they if they have one but it's just sounds to me like they got to have it the way that sentence is worried. 
Speaker 10: I would say 
Speaker 1: [00:55:21] but I'm all right with it. Whatever way you want to go. 
Speaker 8: I would say. a driver's license or 
Speaker 7: acceptable form of 
Speaker 10: identification 
Speaker 3: Fair enough 
Speaker 11: [00:55:33] Mike the company requires an identification. They even require the social security number 
Speaker 4: of an individual to join. Yeah. I'm 
Speaker 11: just saying [00:55:43] the replication so we have their ID. 
Speaker 10: Okay, then why are we asking for it again? There you go. 
Speaker 2: [00:55:54] Now again in my mind, 
Speaker 7: this was as much this is an Works in parallel with the the policy that already exists 
Speaker 10: in more is to define [00:56:04] the process because we kept getting muddled up and in the process. bright and numb [00:56:17] I think I think key here is the definition that and I'm looking for my cursor and all of a sudden they can't find my cursor to the right. [00:56:28] You know, 
Speaker 7: we're in a situation before where there wasn't a 
Speaker 10: prescribed Cadence 
Speaker 7: if you want to use that word and and and [00:56:38] you know, this this kind of defines what they 
Speaker 8: Cadence is supposed to 
Speaker 10: be and and grounds the process that that and so in my mind was this is not 
Speaker 4: to [00:56:48] replace it. It's just it's too it's an adjunct to 
Speaker 10: it. All right, 
Speaker 2: and the board certainly has the ability to approve the You application [00:56:58] form which the company gives to a prospective member? And so that would be the Step 2 of this process would let's get a copy of the application which [00:57:08] the company gives to a member and maybe the board wants to add certain items to it or take some away. 
Speaker 11: We could take some away. 
Speaker 2: Sure. This is this is the [00:57:18] board's approved application. 
Speaker 7: And the department could have their own sure they can have their own application if they 
Speaker 2: wanted but the board wants this. [00:57:29] Community that in that document the board certainly has the ability to either require a driver's license or a governmental [00:57:39] identification card or an affidavit swearing at this person is who they 
Speaker 11: say they are. [00:57:49] Rod why why do we need both us? And since 
Speaker 4: we have something safe to say in it? Why does the Social Security number [00:57:59] have to be used to join a fire department? I'm not sure. I'm not comfortable with that 
Speaker 2: because you have to provide that number to the yellow sap administrator. You have [00:58:09] to provide that number to the loss of administrator. 
Speaker 4: Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yep, okay. 
Speaker 2: Granted it's a piece of information [00:58:19] that has to be kept under under lock and key. 
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's my concern. Perhaps that's for my eyes. Only 
Speaker 3: one [00:58:29] the 
Speaker 2: But keep in mind that if the department asks for it on their application form and [00:58:39] then the department discloses that to someone who shouldn't get it. That's a department issue not a district 
Speaker 10: issue. 
Speaker 3: I think 
Speaker 10: [00:58:50] in a lot of 
Speaker 7: ways. The district's role is similar to that of an employer. Right and just as there could be 
Speaker 4: the 
Speaker 7: expectation [00:59:00] that 
Speaker 10: an employer would 
Speaker 7: maintain certain private information securely right? There would be a reasonable expectation that we would do the same. [00:59:10] We obviously have the responsibility to 
Speaker 10: do so, right. So use we Supply our are employers on 
Speaker 7: social security numbers certain health information [00:59:20] and so on. I think it's a 
Speaker 10: similar. Elation 
Speaker 2: ship But if the if the department has information about [00:59:30] an applicant or about a member and they disclose it wrongfully they're on the hook for of not not the district 
Speaker 10: right? Are you listening Ted? [00:59:44] All right. I think I think a way to move 
Speaker 7: forward here and feel free to disagree 
Speaker 4: gentleman is 
Speaker 3: [00:59:54] for 
Speaker 2: the Department to give 
Speaker 10: us 
Speaker 2: They are their application for membership. We can 
Speaker 7: review that next month 
Speaker 2: in [01:00:04] conjunction 
Speaker 7: with this and move on. 
Speaker 10: But if people have a different idea, let me 
Speaker 11: know. I'm good [01:00:14] with that 
Speaker 10: Steve Ross. You got over that. Yep, Kevin. Yeah, Mike. [01:00:24] Yes, if you did, but I'm gonna all 
Speaker 1: right. So, 
Speaker 3: um 
Speaker 8: I'm in for excitement [01:00:34] some excitement tonight Karen. You've got some sealed bids. There were three items 
Speaker 7: that were out on Craigslist. I know I've gotten a 
Speaker 10: plethora [01:00:44] of responses. I don't know how 
Speaker 7: many sealed bids you have and 
Speaker 6: I think I'm up to 18. 
Speaker 7: Okay, and [01:00:54] I had I had people even emailing me tonight wondering if they could get their sealed bids in. 
Speaker 1: It was a cut-off date of 10th. Was 
Speaker 10: it? [01:01:04] That was the cutoff was today 
Speaker 7: but one running today, 
Speaker 6: so I put the times I put the tent in the notice because there was no mail today. All 
Speaker 10: right. [01:01:14] Okay, 
Speaker 7: so you I guess you can open the sealed bids, right? You're in possession of all them and 
Speaker 6: I miscalculated. 
Speaker 1: [01:01:25] Okay, let me ask you a question all 
Speaker 8: of a sudden my computer. All I have shown 
Speaker 1: is the word Zoom. Can you still see me 
Speaker 7: how we can see you? 
Speaker 1: I can't see anybody all [01:01:35] I just scaring the voices. 
Speaker 6: Hearing voices. What do I say? [01:01:47] Do I say who they're from the 
Speaker 2: media from who they're from in the dollar 
Speaker 6: amount? Okay. This one is from 
Speaker 11: [01:01:57] on the item, please first 
Speaker 6: the item first we had the trailer. Okay. This is a bid for the trailer for $650 from pal [01:02:07] Marino Sub-Zero from Warwick, New York. [01:02:29] This is from Janet. Oh, sorry, this is the Hallmark 10 utility trailer. 700 dollars from Janice [01:02:39] Danielle He's the winner so 
Speaker 3: far. 
Speaker 6: [01:02:52] This is for for the trailer for 889 dollars from guy 
Speaker 3: Dobson. Keep going that way. 
Speaker 6: [01:03:12] Utility trailer five hundred and twenty five dollars from Saul news 
Speaker 7: that ain't gonna cut it. 
Speaker 6: [01:03:31] Walmart, utility trailer 801 dollars from Thomas Monahan 
Speaker 10: close, but no 
Speaker 1: cigar [01:03:41] Nobody wants to fish. I guess 
Speaker 7: I got a couple late inquiries on that. I think if we reran it, I would let those people know that we didn't [01:03:51] get something and we could sell it. So what let the let's see what we get. 
Speaker 6: For the Hallmark utility trailer 1660 [01:04:01] dollars from Richard Spa 
Speaker 7: sixteen sixty 
Speaker 6: one thousand six hundred and sixty dollars. Yep for the [01:04:11] Hallmark utility trailer whoo-hoo. 
Speaker 10: 1660 
Speaker 1: [01:04:21] that has significance to me. I did a bid like that because it had something to do with a social security 
Speaker 10: number. 
Speaker 6: Here for the utility [01:04:31] trailer 753 
Speaker 10: dollars. No siree, Bob. That's from 
Speaker 6: Edward toward act or 
Speaker 3: down. 
Speaker 7: [01:04:46] We should have popcorn. This is 
Speaker 1: exciting. 
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I can't see anybody. 
Speaker 6: Okay, Hallmark utility trailer [01:04:56] 742 dollars from Jon cassar, 
Speaker 3: Otis. Nope. 
Speaker 6: [01:05:17] Well, Mark utility trailer 750 $5.50 from James Berliner. 
Speaker 3: Nope. 
Speaker 1: [01:05:35] I don't know what I did. But now I can see you people again. Just keep clicking on 
Speaker 10: things. 
Speaker 6: [01:05:58] Or the Hallmark utility. Try it to trailer $1,200 from Carlos Costel. [01:06:20] Walmart trailer $675 from Bob Benson 
Speaker 3: Berg 
Speaker 6: [01:06:39] Walmart, utility trailers $600 Stefano moloch 
Speaker 3: own 
Speaker 6: [01:06:51] trail whole Market trailer 649 50 from Chris Ross or 
Speaker 3: blog 
Speaker 6: [01:07:07] Hallmark utility trailer 750 dollars from Rosemarie 
Speaker 3: O'Brien 
Speaker 1: [01:07:21] Open know what a title is the 
Speaker 4: trailer we do. Okay. 
Speaker 11: Wow. 
Speaker 6: Oh Mark utility trailer. [01:07:33] 500 dollars from Michelle, Michelle [01:07:44] Something she'd been 
Speaker 3: 600. 
Speaker 6: [01:07:59] Omar trailer 1120 dollars from 
Speaker 3: Chris 
Speaker 6: [01:08:27] Walmart trailer 625 from Terrapin tree 
Speaker 3: care 
Speaker 6: [01:08:46] all Mark trailer 931 dollars from Kevin 
Speaker 3: Russell 
Speaker 6: [01:09:02] for the boat trailer Moto's and cover 193 to sorry 1093 [01:09:13] dollars from Jeffrey Russell. That's the boat Trello motor and cover boat trailer motor and cover 1930 [01:09:23] dollars from Jeffrey Russell 1930. 1930 [01:09:33] and that is it that I have. All right, so we got two 
Speaker 7: winners. I know we have the title for the trailer. [01:09:44] Because you found that Karen right? Yes, the 2005 Hallmark. I'm not so convinced what we have on the my [01:09:54] recommend Jeffrey Russell Kevin. That would be a Jeffrey Russell that's related to 
Speaker 3: you. 
Speaker 8: [01:10:25] And then Richard whatever Karen if you get me the 
Speaker 10: title, what do you think Rod is going to be 
Speaker 8: cash in an envelope, [01:10:35] right? 
Speaker 1: title we got to have a title for the boat trailer and you got to have a title for that boat itself. [01:10:45] Yeah, both on 
Speaker 10: register. 
Speaker 8: Cash in an envelope Rod yes, or a 
Speaker 2: certified Bank cheque 
Speaker 10: or certified Bank check. Okay. [01:10:55] So 
Speaker 7: if you give me that contact information, I will 
Speaker 10: contact Richard and 
Speaker 8: we know how to get up Jeffrey Ross Hold Up Jeffrey Russell on the boat when we can work that out Kevin with 
Speaker 10: you. [01:11:09] That good Karen. 
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean the bid from Jeffrey Russell was for the boat trailer motor and 
Speaker 10: cover. Yeah, that's it's all the time. 
Speaker 7: [01:11:19] That's the 
Speaker 8: yeah, there was there's a trailer with the 
Speaker 10: boat. Oh, okay. 
Speaker 6: Yeah. Okay. So then that guy Richard that [01:11:29] that did 1660. He's the one that got the other 
Speaker 7: trailer. Yeah, he got the whole Mark. So if you get me filters contact International, okay. I will get [01:11:39] a hold of him and tell him what we 
Speaker 10: need. All right. All right 
Speaker 1: any bids on the air hammer? 
Speaker 9: No, [01:11:49] I guess not. 
Speaker 1: I guess I should put a bid in. There was no minimum either. 
Speaker 7: [01:11:59] So at that point at this point is just Surplus equipment and 
Speaker 10: we'll have to decide what we want to do with that. All right [01:12:09] that we need to. continue with an application 
Speaker 8: [01:12:21] Marshall and Sterling Insurance 
Speaker 3: sent 
Speaker 10: a 
Speaker 2: form [01:12:31] for me to 
Speaker 7: or for us to it's a renewal questionnaire. [01:12:43] And I was assuming they're going to use this to see if I rates need any model any changes. Okay, Bob do [01:12:53] we want to put you in is the 
Speaker 10: contact again? 
Speaker 11: Sure for now? Okay, 
Speaker 7: [01:13:03] it has part-time employees as 
Speaker 10: to 
Speaker 11: should that not read three. I think there's three should be 
Speaker 4: I think there's three. 
Speaker 10: All right. 
Speaker 7: [01:13:16] No full-time. It has active volunteers is 32 but we don't have that many on the roster. How many do we have on the roster Karen? 
Speaker 11: [01:13:35] This is for next year, right? 2021. Yep. Yeah. 
Speaker 6: Kevin Nelson is not on the active roster 
Speaker 7: [01:13:45] yet. That's not as of yet. 
Speaker 6: Okay, so that's 29:29 
Speaker 11: for next year. What is it [01:13:55] Williams is going to be off but we're going to add two others. So we want to have 
Speaker 4: we don't want to shy ourselves we can stick with 
Speaker 10: 32. [01:14:06] Yeah, I would 
Speaker 7: alright. I don't think our population has changed the responses. Look accurate at 120 and 
Speaker 10: 140. 
Speaker 7: [01:14:17] They have four structures that they're covering the fire station the barbecue pit and two storage 
Speaker 2: containers. 
Speaker 7: They have a deductible [01:14:27] of $500 and a contents 
Speaker 10: of 
Speaker 7: limit of $158,000 content [01:14:37] would not 
Speaker 10: include. the trucks 
Speaker 7: I don't know the answer to this does the coverage [01:14:47] property coverage include a special property 
Speaker 3: floater? 
Speaker 11: I'll ask what that what they mean on that. 
Speaker 7: Alright, so you're [01:14:57] going to ask about the 
Speaker 4: floater special. What is that? 
Speaker 11: Right? Yeah down Steve. We need to just think about that interior of the 
Speaker 4: equipment. We have [01:15:07] inside other than the trucks. Is that enough? 
Speaker 7: Well, that's why we're talking here because if 
Speaker 8: people have questions we want to make sure we're all in 
Speaker 4: agreement [01:15:17] Don Don and Bob Simon with his medical stuff actually you You know, they that 
Speaker 11: [01:15:27] recharge 
Speaker 4: system what else we got to of significance 
Speaker 3: Rod. 
Speaker 8: Where would a Scott pack that [01:15:37] was on a truck? Would that be content with that be part of the 
Speaker 10: vehicle? You're part of the vehicle? 
Speaker 7: So anything that's on a vehicle be part of that vehicle we [01:15:47] part of the 
Speaker 3: vehicle. 
Speaker 1: I mean, we got a lot. We got 
Speaker 7: a [01:15:57] few rude we're going to replace that kitchen 
Speaker 8: the refrigerator and the and the gas 
Speaker 10: stove we have freezer. 
Speaker 8: We have [01:16:07] an ice machine 
Speaker 10: we have. 
Speaker 11: We've got that hose cleaner that's got a value on 
Speaker 1: it. Yeah holds 
Speaker 10: cleaner. [01:16:18] I mean 
Speaker 8: maybe you want to discuss with her 
Speaker 7: increasing that blanket contents 
Speaker 11: limit. What are we at now 
Speaker 8: hundred fifty eight? Let's say 
Speaker 4: 200. [01:16:29] Yeah, unless somebody 
Speaker 11: objects. I'll ask the question. I'll have it for next month, but that when are they wanting to have this in their 
Speaker 8: hand? [01:16:40] 12:15, which is 
Speaker 7: [01:16:50] the meeting is the 
Speaker 10: 16th, 
Speaker 4: right? 
Speaker 1: All right detect require at least two signatures. 
Speaker 7: Yes. 
Speaker 8: [01:17:00] The purchases. No, 
Speaker 10: we reconcile we 
Speaker 7: don't know of any criminal acts are Financial records audited [01:17:10] by outside parties. Yes. Do we run Bingo nights or games of chance? We do 
Speaker 10: not. 
Speaker 7: [01:17:22] Schedule of covered entity schedule one computer and funds transfer fraud. We have a limit of a hundred 
Speaker 10: thousand. 
Speaker 8: [01:17:34] Fraudulent impersonation. We have a limit of a hundred 
Speaker 7: thousand identity fraud expense we have 
Speaker 8: limit of 
Speaker 10: 10,000 [01:17:46] Public employee dishonesty 
Speaker 7: blanket per employee. We have a limit of 
Speaker 10: 250,000. 
Speaker 8: [01:17:56] Public employee dishonesty 
Speaker 7: blanket Pro loss. We have 11 
Speaker 8: of 
Speaker 10: 250,000. [01:18:06] What are you thinking anybody? 
Speaker 8: Zest Lime Light Rod or am I 
Speaker 11: just Rod stepped 
Speaker 10: out now? 
Speaker 2: [01:18:18] You say but I think maybe you want you want Flanagan come down and look at it. 
Speaker 11: We'd have to have a special meeting. 
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not [01:18:28] as such as life. Yeah, 
Speaker 2: I think you'll do Zoom. I think you understand. It's working. I think you can call her and tell her look we're not going to have this done by the 15. We want you to [01:18:38] come down and firehouse and see what we've got and and once that's in place and then it'll be it'll be sent to you. 
Speaker 11: Okay, 
Speaker 7: so you're going to contact [01:18:48] your Bob see if you can line 
Speaker 8: up a meeting. Okay, I can tell you right now I can't do. 
Speaker 7: 14th or the 15th of December Thanksgiving [01:18:58] week will be bad. Next week. I can't do Tuesday. I don't know Mike you're Wednesdays generally are bad for you. Is that correct? 
Speaker 11: [01:19:15] Give me a couple of dates that are 
Speaker 3: good, 
Speaker 10: but I could do 
Speaker 7: the 16th 18th 19th 
Speaker 10: of [01:19:25] November I could do the first second third of December. 
Speaker 7: I could do [01:19:35] the 10th of December. I could do the 14th know I can't do the 14th 
Speaker 10: calendar. 
Speaker 7: There's a few dates [01:19:45] by it. Anybody have any 
Speaker 11: we don't all need to be there for this 
Speaker 4: one, you know 
Speaker 7: you and I maybe don could 
Speaker 11: do [01:19:55] it. Yeah, certainly all the Commissioners are 
Speaker 7: welcome to it. Absolutely, but we don't need everybody there 
Speaker 9: and they nights and [01:20:05] last Wednesday of the month. I can't do 
Speaker 7: last Wednesday the month. So the that's the day before Thanksgiving. I bet that's 
Speaker 9: rescheduled. Yeah, [01:20:15] if you want to yeah, I might be next it might be nice ones in but I can't do Monday night's either but Tuesday's are good. Thursday's are 
Speaker 10: good. Friday's 
Speaker 7: [01:20:25] so Appleton 19th. Bob is looking good Okay the third that would be a right Mike. What did the week is that? I'm counter Thursday. 
Speaker 4: [01:20:36] That's fine. 
Speaker 10: The 10th. 
Speaker 11: The 10th is good. Okay 
Speaker 7: of December, 
Speaker 11: right? That should be enough. Yeah, 
Speaker 7: there's some dates to go [01:20:46] with ya 
Speaker 11: 19th third and tenth and at seven o'clock or you want to do it at a different time. 
Speaker 8: Seven works for me. I don't know about anybody 
Speaker 1: else. [01:20:56] Now was you said everybody didn't need to be there? Right? 
Speaker 11: Right. Well, if they're not you're welcome all the third very welcome the 
Speaker 1: third I have something I have a zoning [01:21:06] board of appeals at night. So 30 December 
Speaker 10: the 3rd again, I'll 
Speaker 8: want I might have to be there Russ good point to good thing you brought [01:21:16] that 
Speaker 11: up so scratch the third 
Speaker 8: actually third for 
Speaker 11: me 19th of November and the 10th of November that's getting a little tight [01:21:26] 10th of December. Can you give me another 
Speaker 4: day? 
Speaker 10: Not that 
Speaker 7: Tuesday's you said. Okay, Mike. [01:21:36] Yeah. Tuesdays are fine. He had a problem with Tuesday is the eighth is bad because we're doing elections the 15th is bad because I got to meet cup that drill. I could do the 1st to 
Speaker 10: December. 
Speaker 7: [01:21:47] 17th I got to be at the planning board. So that's my Tuesday schedule. 
Speaker 11: So first of December is okay. Yep, there's three. I'm good. 
Speaker 10: [01:21:57] All right, all right 
Speaker 11: and and talk with Don and the team on you know replacement values for these equipment [01:22:08] be nice to have that before we meet. All right. 
Speaker 7: All right, and you're going to contact her and if you need this document Bob, let me know. We'll get it to 
Speaker 11: you, you know probably won't it this time we'll meet with her [01:22:18] first 
Speaker 4: and 
Speaker 3: Yeah. 
Speaker 8: All right. Now what doesn't have to be 
Speaker 10: published? [01:22:30] I think we're likely to have 
Speaker 11: all of the 
Speaker 8: workshop. You have call it a workshop and like Karen no will 
Speaker 10: publish it. It doesn't hurt. Okay. 
Speaker 1: [01:22:43] Thank you, Karen for thinking 
Speaker 7: all right, Kevin you [01:22:53] out there somewhere. There you 
Speaker 1: are. I am here 
Speaker 7: facilities committee update. What's a 
Speaker 5: well still waiting to hear back from Dennis Dennis showed up [01:23:05] from h2m Architects him and two other gentlemen from his company. They were very [01:23:15] thorough. I thought we're waiting to hear back from them. As a matter of fact, if we die, we don't if I don't hear back from them within the next couple days, I'll reach out to them. They [01:23:25] were going to send us down some package. Now the other Mitchell Associates Bob Mitchell from [01:23:35] Mitchell Associates. I contacted him two days ago and There was some miscommunication. This is what he wrote back [01:23:45] to me. I sent him up answers to the six questions that he had back probably three weeks ago. [01:23:56] And this is what he sent back to me just yesterday to a day before. He says I wrote back to you the day. I received your email. Unfortunately, I [01:24:06] misspelled your email address highlighted below the materialized. Scent is attached here. Now. Once again, Bob has the [01:24:16] misunderstanding that we're just looking for a brand new Firehouse not to come down and evaluate the existing Firehouse. So I did send [01:24:26] him an email thanking him for his response. But what day in a very near future [01:24:36] that him and his associates could come down and evaluate the Austin fire house and kind of do the same thing Dennis hopefully [01:24:46] is going to do 
Speaker 10: alright, 
Speaker 2: so we're taking baby steps. 
Speaker 5: Yes. We are now Dennis. Like I said Dennis from h2m [01:24:56] Architects, which they're the ones up in Latham. I would say any day now. We're going to hear something back from 
Speaker 10: him. Okay? [01:25:06] All 
Speaker 5: right, well with their findings their results and all that they were upstairs in the Attic. They were all over the place they were outside [01:25:16] inside. So we should hear back from them within a couple days and then Bob from Mitchell Architects, [01:25:27] I would think we're hear back from him within a couple days on one. He can come down with his people and do the same thing Dennis stood and then we can move on with both of them from 
Speaker 7: there. [01:25:37] All right good enough to anybody have any questions for 
Speaker 11: Kevin. Yeah. I do. Did they take a look at the footprint of where the existing building [01:25:47] and roadway sits on our property and close to our property lines. 
Speaker 1: Here we go. Kevin gave him a copy of the [01:25:57] paperwork which shows that on a map. It shows the You know the aerial view and shows yellow lines and shows that the actually front of the firehouses Town Road. [01:26:07] So they would they they got that a picture. They were taking the whole package. You never make copies of it all. 
Speaker 3: Okay, 
Speaker 1: because right now we're going to 
Speaker 5: send that back [01:26:17] to me to which I haven't received that yet 
Speaker 10: either. All right 
Speaker 7: now a little bit out of so, it's 
Speaker 11: Steve Arts. [01:26:27] Yeah, I was going to say is 
Speaker 7: anybody in the public have any inquiries of Kevin or 
Speaker 1: Russ? I had fellow named [01:26:37] Eric is one of the three fellows and I told him I would send him to surveys which I did send in the surveys which probably show might bleed over 
Speaker 6: into [01:26:47] our current Firehouse 
Speaker 1: but it shows where they septic is where the well is roadway everything Kevin. Would you want a copy of those surveys? So you've got [01:26:57] them handy? 
Speaker 5: Absolutely Arthur. Yeah, if you could do that, that's fine and was Eric. That was Eric the gentleman from 
Speaker 3: Rhinebeck. Yes, 
Speaker 5: yes, [01:27:07] right. 
Speaker 3: Okay. 
Speaker 7: Where pray tell did you dig up a survey our 
Speaker 1: um, it might have been something that [01:27:17] when we were looking at the the roadway we had the survey and I talked to Ron quite a bit back and forth about right-of-ways [01:27:27] and such. So that's that's a point in time. 
Speaker 7: Curious, I didn't know any survey existed that showed the septic in the well. 
Speaker 1: [01:27:37] Yeah, I didn't know that subject was there are the wild yeah. Yeah, I'd 
Speaker 7: love to see that at some point thing and we 
Speaker 1: haven't all 
Speaker 5: [01:27:47] our third if you can send that to me, that would be great and Steve you have one of the one of the three gentlemen that that showed up with h2m. [01:27:58] Lived, right? It lives right in Rhinebeck. 
Speaker 7: All right, local guy then. 
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was that was a very 
Speaker 11: convenient. All right. Good deal. Hey, I have a question for [01:28:08] our art. This is looking at the roadway the new roadway if you will and [01:28:18] the work that you did with the cemetery. Do you have any documentation to give 
Speaker 4: Kevin 
Speaker 11: if time goes on and we go 
Speaker 4: that direction 
Speaker 11: [01:28:30] who to talk to who to talk to 
Speaker 4: and what do you think we can do with that? 
Speaker 10: There's there was no 
Speaker 1: discussion with anybody [01:28:40] officially on with the cemetery. If we needed to Triangle the additional access at the intersection by [01:28:50] whoever is whoever's on the board at the time would be who you talk 
Speaker 4: to. Okay, 
Speaker 7: Ellie. Do you have anything to 
Speaker 3: add? 
Speaker 10: [01:29:04] Sorry about that. I think that pretty much summarizes what we did what we talked about. 
Speaker 5: Do we have any Kevin do we have any idea when this other fellow [01:29:14] is going to come? Come down to see us it Mitchell. Is that his name? Yeah, Robert Mitchell Bob Mitchell from Mitchell Associates architects know [01:29:24] Elliot. Unfortunately, he said That we communicate. Well, I sent something to him about three weeks [01:29:34] ago and he said something right back but it didn't wrong email address on his end. He sent it out to the wrong email address. Otherwise, [01:29:44] I think we would have seen him by now. So that that kind of it's slowing things down a little bit is he not interested in is he not interested in talking 
Speaker 10: [01:29:54] about anything less than a whole new building? 
Speaker 5: No, I'm not going to say that as of yet. Anyway, I [01:30:04] think he just misunderstood. Okay, we're Dennis where Dennis from h2m understood that you know, we were looking to [01:30:14] survey what we have and and you know between what we have and or a new one. 
Speaker 10: Okay, so 
Speaker 5: hopefully we'll get Bob down here [01:30:24] from Bob Mitchell and you know, we're have both of them going and we can look at both of 
Speaker 10: them. Yeah. Alright, okay, 
Speaker 5: and I'll let everybody know obviously when Bob [01:30:34] sends down some dates. I'll send out some Deets to everybody and we're would do it just like we did with Dennis. 
Speaker 10: All right, sounds fine. Okay 
Speaker 7: one last thing [01:30:44] under old business that TK contract Lisa called me. 
Speaker 8: And expressed that she was hesitant to 
Speaker 7: commit to [01:30:54] the contract because we 
Speaker 8: seem to be trying to lock her in on 
Speaker 10: raids 
Speaker 7: as she explained to me. The medical supplies Market is very volatile at this point and you know [01:31:04] situations where you shoes to pay six dollars for a box of gloves. She's paying 
Speaker 10: $12 for a box of gloves 
Speaker 7: rod. [01:31:15] Is there something that we could put in some kind of rubies we could put in the contract relative to the fee schedules representative fee schedule or something [01:31:25] like that that would that would loosen that 
Speaker 10: up a little bit. But but holder to 
Speaker 7: the rest of the tenants of the contract or how would you advise approaching that 
Speaker 2: [01:31:35] well, if you're willing to allow her to increase the price of the box of gloves that she needs for the the physicals in exchange that you would have the right to back. of [01:31:45] the contract great one way to do it or you could do it, you know, she could increase the price up to no more than 10% And maintain [01:31:55] the contract but you know, you should have the ability to back out of the contract if she wants to change the 
Speaker 10: terms. 
Speaker 2: Or you could just say that you know while [01:32:05] it's a one-year contract and and she can change the dollar amount on 30 days written notice and you pay the 
Speaker 10: freight. What's your pleasure folks? 
Speaker 7: [01:32:19] I would I would be in favor of 
Speaker 1: [01:32:38] and if she thinks that it's necessary before we do the next physicals to amend those prices, I think maybe she could submit it to us to see if we're going [01:32:48] to agree to that. 
Speaker 7: Well, we're going to have returned to duty physicals if anybody goes out for for any reason and we're going to have new member [01:32:58] physical. So it's going to be an 
Speaker 10: ongoing 
Speaker 7: topic. Right and I am somewhat empathetic to the situation 
Speaker 10: that 
Speaker 7: [01:33:10] a lot of her Supply markets 
Speaker 10: are. You know are volatile. 
Speaker 2: I mean the [01:33:20] board having the right to terminate the contract is protection against her exorbitantly increasing a price. All right there my experience with her in the past has been that she's [01:33:30] a reasonable business person and she's not going to increase prices dramatically over what your costs are 
Speaker 7: right and mine as 
Speaker 10: well. [01:33:40] So 
Speaker 7: I would be I would be in favor of matter of fact, I will move. That we modify the verbiage such that with a 30-day [01:33:50] notice will accept an increase in the service prices of services 
Speaker 10: offered [01:34:00] up to perk up to 
Speaker 7: 10% And also in addition of verbiage that we have the ability to withdraw from [01:34:10] the 
Speaker 10: contract and at any point, 
Speaker 11: I'll second that okay. So 
Speaker 2: so so just so I'm clear so your [01:34:21] if she increases the price more than 10% you're going to back out of the you have the right to back out of the contract but driving allow her to increase up to 10% 
Speaker 7: Yep with a 30 Zone with a 30-day 
Speaker 2: [01:34:31] notice, right? So it's more than 10% Then you have the right to back out. Yep. 
Speaker 7: That that's my motion. I have a second so we can 
Speaker 11: discuss [01:34:41] the I'd like to see the contract that the board resolved to send her signed sent her months ago backdated to the at the point [01:34:51] before the physicals 
Speaker 3: occurred. 
Speaker 1: Your had to explain that better to me 
Speaker 11: [01:35:01] that contract should be enforced for the physicals that that we just 
Speaker 1: had. Yeah, well, I don't think [01:35:11] she's planning on charges more for the ones that are 
Speaker 11: completed. It's not about money. It's about having that thing in place before those [01:35:21] physicals. We worked hard to get that in place for certain criteria. [01:35:31] And it took they she ignored it and didn't communicate to us. 
Speaker 4: Not a not happy with that at 
Speaker 3: all. 
Speaker 7: [01:35:41] Inside on that 
Speaker 2: road. Well, what's your understanding of what she's going to charge you for the physicals now, but for the physicals that were performed last month, 
Speaker 4: [01:35:51] we already know that we actually paid for them with tonight's 
Speaker 2: challenge. How can she charge you more for physicals that you've already choose build you for a new paid 
Speaker 11: for? [01:36:02] Yeah, I'm not worried about that. 
Speaker 4: I don't I'm not even 
Speaker 7: thinking of what's your concern 
Speaker 11: buddy? We had a we had criteria [01:36:14] for each individual classification. She should have been which she didn't do the previous year of doing the physicals for those criteria. [01:36:24] I believe you did it verbally 
Speaker 4: in the previous year if we have 
Speaker 7: we hadn't we had a written form, but it wasn't part of a [01:36:34] contract. 
Speaker 4: yeah, and she 
Speaker 11: deferred to a 
Speaker 4: subordinate and that subordinate looked the other [01:36:44] way and I'd like to see that this this I dated contract because again, we've resolved months ago [01:36:54] to get it to her and they she ignored us and didn't respond to Karen and even up till yesterday. She didn't respond. She talked to you. I believe [01:37:04] I'd like to see the contract that we signed up into this goes to 2021 
Speaker 11: predated to the physical. She already 
Speaker 3: gave. 
Speaker 7: [01:37:19] You could leave that date that the original data on the contract. 
Speaker 11: Yeah. Yeah, 
Speaker 4: absolutely there an issue with that 
Speaker 2: Rod no front provide [01:37:29] additional. Sign it. 
Speaker 11: Yeah. Yeah, and really need to keep on if we do any more 
Speaker 4: business with the Teague this DK [01:37:40] she needs to be in communication through at least Karen. If not yourself saying over concerns. You don't wait until she's done the work 
Speaker 11: and then say [01:37:50] oh well, why don't like the 
Speaker 4: contract that doesn't that's that's not good. 
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think that was her motive and we did we did have some spam, [01:38:00] you know junk folder kind of issue. 
Speaker 10: the email I mean I'm 
Speaker 7: [01:38:10] I've never had any issues with her communicating with me. I'm the physical liaison. It's always worked but 
Speaker 11: but the timing is really not 
Speaker 7: good. It's been [01:38:20] the timing has dragged on there's no question. So anybody else Mike Ross Kevin have any any anything to add? [01:38:30] No, nothing to add for 
Speaker 9: me 
Speaker 10: rust? No. 
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, nothing there Steve. 
Speaker 7: All right that being said. The motion is to [01:38:41] modify the verb. He's in the contract to with 30 days notice allow for up to ten percent 
Speaker 10: increase in rates. 
Speaker 7: With the [01:38:51] option to opt out of the contract if it exceeds that 10% is that right 
Speaker 10: rod? Yes. All right. So Kevin, what's your what's your job Mike? [01:39:01] Hi Russ. Hi 
Speaker 4: Bob, 
Speaker 7: I go dies. Well that motion carries new business any new business. I don't have 
Speaker 10: any 
Speaker 11: [01:39:15] Need to coordinate 
Speaker 4: with the guys. You said we're going to do it offline. Yeah, but I don't have an 
Speaker 11: opportunity to communicate with anybody the 
Speaker 4: chief for [01:39:25] Kevin Russell any other time? 
Speaker 7: All right. Well we can go to public with if there's no other new business we go [01:39:35] to public and then we can let people go and you guys can 
Speaker 6: coordinate. I have one question Karen with the pamphlet statement. I got the December 31st [01:39:45] participant of night of 2019 participant statements. So I am going to mail them all out to all of the participants. 
Speaker 10: [01:39:55] Okay? Okay. Alright, you'll add that to the That's occurring 
Speaker 2: then since you're doing that Karen might I suggest that you also [01:40:05] include a beneficiary form for all of the participants. 
Speaker 6: Oh good idea 
Speaker 11: Rod there either asking for it and we're deficient [01:40:15] on a number of our beneficiary pertaining to low 
Speaker 6: sap. Yeah, but we've sent out letters and I rarely rarely get anything back on the beneficiary [01:40:26] Whenever I send out a budget beneficiary for Am I rarely get anything back? 
Speaker 4: That's the president the president should get on that one Steve 
Speaker 2: [01:40:36] Well, if there's no beneficiary on the form or if they don't have a beneficiary form on file, should they pass away the estate will be the beneficiary. 
Speaker 7: [01:40:46] Yeah, I'm not sure. It's on us to chase it if we if you know opportunity, right? Yeah, 
Speaker 6: that's a good idea. 
Speaker 2: [01:40:56] So they get a form every year saying fill it out and they don't fill it out. They've made the choice of this going to their estate. It's not the district responsibility to chase them to put a beneficiary in the Forum. 
Speaker 10: [01:41:08] Alright any other new 
Speaker 3: business? 
Speaker 7: All right from the public Elliot Glenda. I've got an unidentified iPhone [01:41:18] on. 
Speaker 11: Steve actually I do have a 
Speaker 10: question. Go ahead. 
Speaker 5: Are you guys going to make 
Speaker 11: up signs or [01:41:28] some such 
Speaker 10: thing? I forget what the resolution was that 
Speaker 4: election coming up in December. There's going to be there's a sign on the 
Speaker 7: Marquee at the [01:41:38] ball field. There's going to be a sign on the firehouse door for the for the eighth and public notice was [01:41:48] was given right and our 
Speaker 10: officials Karen. Yes. Yes it was. 
Speaker 3: Okay, 
Speaker 5: I wasn't sure what the outcome also Bob. Is it on the 
Speaker 8: website? [01:42:02] Bob Simon 
Speaker 6: not send Bob the notice for the website yet. Because in the dates that I got that's not supposed to go [01:42:12] to that website until between the 18th and 23rd. I don't know why 
Speaker 8: sometime between the 18th and 
Speaker 6: 23rd. [01:42:22] We will use I'm going to be sending it to Carol and 
Speaker 8: all right. You got that on the website 
Speaker 7: Bob put on the website as well. 
Speaker 10: [01:42:32] All right, so I think I think that's 
Speaker 8: represents a reasonable attempt to 
Speaker 10: communicate for sure. 
Speaker 2: Yeah, cuz going to go out to the Clinton community board as well. So, 
Speaker 10: alright. [01:42:42] Alright great 
Speaker 1: question in terms of the election. I've had been picking up The Ballot Box to be picking up The Ballot 
Speaker 3: [01:42:52] Box. 
Speaker 10: Guess no, I guess we have a 
Speaker 6: burning question. I was going to ask yes, 
Speaker 1: it's [01:43:02] really straightforward. You call them first so that they have it ready for you 10 minutes to pick it up. I park in front of their doors, even though it says no parking, but I'm only stopping so [01:43:12] I think it's legal and five minutes to drop it off anybody making a trip to Poughkeepsie, you know, it's not time sensitive. You just have to get it soon enough and [01:43:22] give it back at a reasonable 
Speaker 10: time. Is anybody in Poughkeepsie? What date is going to be done? [01:43:32] Well, it's got to be done before the 
Speaker 3: 8th. 
Speaker 2: What can I do? Keep going to have 
Speaker 10: Arts? [01:43:44] Pardon, Bob is a 
Speaker 2: Highlander big enough for the spot. Where do I'm not even sure what this is 
Speaker 8: is it's the but it's the box that we put the that we allow people to put the ballots in 
Speaker 1: so it will fit [01:43:54] in a Highland a big shoe box. 
Speaker 8: It'll it'll fit in my 
Speaker 1: Corolla. 
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'll talk to Karen about it awful. I can I can maybe do it [01:44:04] this year if you 
Speaker 7: want. All right. Yeah, that would be appreciated. I used to go to Poughkeepsie everyday but not 
Speaker 3: anymore. 
Speaker 8: [01:44:15] Okay, anybody else from the 
Speaker 10: public? 
Speaker 8: That being said I would entertain a motion to 
Speaker 10: adjourn. [01:44:27] I make a motion to adjourn. Alrighty, thank you. I need a second second Kevin. What's your pleasure? I like 
Speaker 3: [01:44:38] I 
Speaker 10: Russ. All right. my forgetting Bob hi, and I bought eyes well now if 
Speaker 8: Don and Kevin you could [01:44:48] stay on the line 
Speaker 11: and Russell so 
Speaker 10: And Russ also, okay. Well, let's see 
Speaker 7: if we can coordinate looking [01:44:58] at this. 
Speaker 3: Onan generator 
Speaker 8: Everybody else can hang around. 
Speaker 3: But 
Speaker 11: [01:45:09] yeah, nothing 
Speaker 4: secret just Bob Simon might want to stay there too. Of course, he 
Speaker 10: asked you. [01:45:20] Yeah, 
Speaker 11: Don, are you there? Yeah, all right. 
Speaker 6: Nice night. 
Speaker 8: Good night, [01:45:30] Karen. Thank you. 
Speaker 11: No, Mike certainly. [01:45:40] Not a big deal. So Bob, but if you briefed Don on what you saw on that YouTube [01:45:50] video pertaining to the generator those gensets 
Speaker 2: are you doing about the fact that if you put it at really low oil level than it would keep running [01:46:00] because there won't be any buildup in the 
Speaker 4: pressure. Yeah. Did you brief them on 
Speaker 2: it? Or just do not eating it? 
Speaker 11: Okay, and the other [01:46:10] thing is I asked you do we have the worksheets of what 
Speaker 4: the various people 
Speaker 11: have done has the oil sending [01:46:20] sensor been 
Speaker 2: changed? Who's recovering Russell 
Speaker 11: questions? Okay. Well, it would be on the 
Speaker 10: work shevin. 
Speaker 2: I don't think the worksheet [01:46:30] I'd have to go back and look at the different worksheets. I know and one case didn't they say there wasn't enough oil or something like that. 
Speaker 3: Yeah. 
Speaker 6: [01:46:52] Halfway 
Speaker 9: down and there's your troops that it has to be 
Speaker 2: like just above the the end of the tip half doesn't do it. It's got to be real 
Speaker 10: low. 
Speaker 11: [01:47:03] Yeah and Kevin if I can do it or if you want to try that just so that you see a little bit of oil in the bottom. 
Speaker 4: I don't cross hatches [01:47:13] don't like 
Speaker 2: it sounds then like the test has to be we already know fail this. This is software stuff too. We already know will fail when it's half full. All for 35 [01:47:23] minutes or something like that. So then we just lowered down to just two below the 
Speaker 11: yeah, just that the crosshatch indicator right now. If it goes [01:47:33] into failure mode, there's another test when it's in the failure mode, you can pull the connection to the oil [01:47:43] sensor sending unit and ground it if the machine starts working again that it's a faulty 
Speaker 4: sending unit 
Speaker 11: even A lot but you do [01:47:53] the loyal that's the least 
Speaker 4: intrusive it's not 
Speaker 11: normally you don't run a machine like that. We all know that [01:48:03] but apparently these 
Speaker 4: things are sensitive to it. 
Speaker 11: It could still be a defective sending unit if it hasn't been changed and then [01:48:13] beyond that I can pull the codes and when it's in the failure 
Speaker 4: mode 
Speaker 11: Kevin, do you know it when it's in the failure? Mode [01:48:23] it does not have spark. The spark is inhibited because that would be helpful. 
Speaker 6: Yes. I accept it down. 
Speaker 10: Yeah, [01:48:34] when you try to start it again, it's not hooked into that. 
Speaker 11: Okay, and that's the start-stop card, which I think I remember [01:48:44] somebody changed. There's a relay in there that when it gets some conditions. It doesn't like it pulls the ignition. So Kevin, [01:48:54] do you want to try that by sucking out more oil or you want me to do it? Yeah, bring it down. So you just know that there's oil [01:49:04] in it, 
Speaker 4: but not not, 
Speaker 1: you know, let me let me ask you most things of any consequence [01:49:14] most engines have a low oil shut off so that we don't accidentally caused damage to this thing by going to How do we know if that has [01:49:24] a safety shutoff for low oil? Yes. Yes. Okay good. Yeah, 
Speaker 11: so there's two sensors one is oil pressure and the other is low oil. [01:49:34] They both have to be 
Speaker 7: happy. All right. So Kevin you're going to try that and if that doesn't work, I think maybe depending on your comfort [01:49:44] level as to grounding the sensing unit disconnecting and grounding the sensing unit. If that doesn't work, we'll have to get Bob down unless you feel comfortable going after that aspect as well. 
Speaker 1: [01:49:54] Which now we'll do the oil and we'll go from there. 
Speaker 11: Okay, we'll go from there. Call me and I'll I'll come over there. I'll put an inline switch [01:50:04] so you don't have to screw on with wires and just throw the switch and you'll satisfy that sending unit if it's in a failure mode as long [01:50:14] as we have oil in it, and that's a real good start. It's stuff that we can do and it won't cost us 
Speaker 4: any money. I'm going to take a lot of time either 
Speaker 11: Russ and [01:50:24] Any 
Speaker 10: words? No. All right. Let's give it a try and then 
Speaker 2: and we'll reconvene will communicate and let people know what's going on. 
Speaker 1: [01:50:34] I remember saying something to I don't know it was Donner Kevin just recently matter-of-fact about this and I thought it's one of them told [01:50:44] me that the plug was loose again or something and that was the thought the reason it shut down, but apparently they tried to run it again since then and it's still shutting down. 
Speaker 10: [01:50:54] Yes. All righty. 
Speaker 2: All right. We got a path 
Speaker 10: forward anybody 
Speaker 7: else. All right. Thank you all have a good evening. I got [01:51:04] your message right? I'll give you maybe holler tomorrow 
Speaker 10: night. All right. Thanks. Good night.