Speaker 6: [00:00:00] I would. Speaker 9: This meeting is being Speaker 5: recorded and admit Speaker 9: rod. And call the meeting to Speaker 1: order. so, [00:00:15] that being said, we will Start with Speaker 9: correspondence. And Ben Jim pass. The cough comes in. [00:00:32] It's waiting for rod rod, your you're there you go. Jim paskoff should be coming in here shortly. All right, I'm there. Hey Jim, how we do. Okay Speaker 1: good. Um, Speaker 9: I have [00:00:47] from send loose key Architects. You are invited to join us for a free fire house at EMS facility design seminar. I don't know if that's something. Kevin that interest you or not. I'm sure it's an advertisement. It is June 23rd [00:01:03] at the Greenwood Lake. Fire District. Main Firehouse facility, which I'll lay you dollars to doughnuts they designed. So if you want that, Kevin let me know. Speaker 13: I Do lyrics tea. Speaker 12: What's that? I have? Okay, good deal. Speaker 2: It is there a cost involved [00:01:18] on Speaker 9: that free would indicate? No. Speaker 2: Okay Speaker 9: so if you want that Bob I'll give that to Speaker 2: you. Yeah, I'd like to just take a look at it. Speaker 3: I Speaker 11: don't even know where Greenwood is. As or Sullivan Speaker 1: County. Speaker 5: [00:01:34] Okay. Alright, we have from phaz Speaker 7: knee. Notice of the hundred and forty Ninth Annual fast any Speaker 1: convention Speaker 7: And White Plains from August 5th through 7th. [00:01:50] I will forward this to the fire chief Speaker 1: staff, if that's acceptable. Speaker 9: We have from Speaker 7: I don't know if it's from the town of Clinton or the photonic Clinton. Because it says town of Clinton [00:02:05] and it's kind of a cheap replica of their Speaker 4: marijuana usage. Speaker 7: It's a Hudson Valley Community power so we can sign up for Speaker 8: a different green Speaker 1: power source. Speaker 8: If we choose I think [00:02:20] we Speaker 9: already opted of about a year ago to sign into one. It's done that. Let me Speaker 1: know. July 14 through Speaker 7: 17 in the on Speaker 8: center in Syracuse Speaker 7: is the NYS AFC a hundred [00:02:35] fifteen annual Speaker 8: conference and fire. X-mode, 20 21. Speaker 9: I will forward that to the chief staff. Speaker 7: Oh The Duchess County. Volunteers farming Association past presidents dinner honoring past [00:02:50] President, John pom, pom pom, Erico is Speaker 8: September 10th. I will forward that apartment. Speaker 9: and if PA, We put answers right in your hand. You have questions, Speaker 8: [00:03:06] make sure you have NFPA everywhere. We go, Speaker 9: a advertising, brochure Central Hudson again, it's Kevin down, the firehouse, the Speaker 4: Russell. Speaker 1: It's to Speaker 14: Brussels in Speaker 12: about [00:03:22] knowing it's Kevin Russell. Speaker 4: Okay? Russell, yeah, he's here. Speaker 9: Okay, I have from Northeast for to recommendation that are 50,000 miles. Scheduled maintenance on our Ford Explorer, maybe Speaker 1: do Speaker 11: Let me go get him Speaker 9: [00:03:37] coupon welts. I've got a prospectus from spdr Blackstone, senior loan ETF Bob. I'll give that to Speaker 5: you, Speaker 1: [00:03:52] okay? That would complete the correspondents Speaker 9: phase. All right, the minute we have all had opportunity to review the minutes. Thank you. Karen. And I need a motion. Please [00:04:07] to accept the minutes Speaker 1: or the Speaker 9: May 12th meeting. Speaker 1: I'll make a Speaker 11: motion and I guess it. All Speaker 9: right, any additions? Corrections modifications. Speaker 11: [00:04:28] You do a good job, Karen. All right, that being Speaker 9: said, Kevin, what's your pleasure? Speaker 13: Hi Speaker 11: Russ. Hi Bob. Hi, Speaker 9: I will for Ty as well, that motion Speaker 11: carries. Speaker 1: All right, Speaker 9: [00:04:44] financials, we have Speaker 11: all had opportunity to review the Speaker 9: outdoors and the bills. I covered a motion to pay the bills per the Speaker 11: abstract I make a motion pay, the bills pretty abstract, Speaker 9: [00:04:59] very good. Do I have a second Speaker 12: second? Speaker 1: All right, any Speaker 9: questions discussion issues. Desired modifications. Speaker 14: [00:05:14] I just have this, we may need to write up a check for the ambulance. Just need to get approval for that. If we do, Speaker 9: well, they have had a delay. There was an issue in the painting of their new ambulance. I got a message from Tom Casey, [00:05:29] so we may be able to table that until the July Speaker 13: meeting, okay? All right. Steve, I have one question. I see that you took your that class again? Yeah, I did. [00:05:44] Right. So my question I guess is to Rod. I took it before December. Where I got re-elected. Do I need to take it again? Speaker 12: Yes. Yes. Okay, [00:05:59] thank you. Speaker 6: Okay. Speaker 11: so even though he took it like 6 months before, you get to take it Speaker 4: again, Yes, the law says you have to take it within 270 days after being appointed or elected [00:06:15] and there's no exception if you get appointed and then get elected three months later you're supposed to take it again. Speaker 13: Yeah. The rod that's what I thought too. Okay. So yeah, Speaker 4: it doesn't make much sense but then that's our legislature. Speaker 8: [00:06:30] Your mistake heaven was waiting not waiting until the 260 ninth day to take it after you got appointed because then you could have probably counted it for both. Speaker 13: Hold on. See Steve. My mistake was talking to you about six months ago. Speaker 12: [00:06:45] Your other Speaker 7: mistake was not wait until Speaker 13: 269, right? Yes, that was my second Speaker 9: mistake. All right. Any other questions or issues relative to the bills? All right, mr. Kosinski, what's your Speaker 12: pleasure? Hi Kevin. [00:07:00] Hi Speaker 11: Russ. I Speaker 9: I vote aye as well that motion carries and by the way these motions are carrying four to nothing. Karen. Yeah. Yeah, Speaker 14: Scott it. Speaker 9: All right. Um, Financials. [00:07:16] I have had opportunity to review the bank statements, I do find that they are an agreement with the financial statements published by Mr. Pascoe from mr. Simon and I therefore move, we approve the financial statements as [00:07:31] presented and I covered a Speaker 1: second. Second. Speaker 11: All right any Speaker 9: questions or issues or otherwise in those regards? Speaker 12: [00:07:48] Mmm. They're really Speaker 9: not well alrighty who denied start with first Russ. What's your pleasure? All right, Speaker 12: Bob. Hi Kevin. Hi, Speaker 9: I would I as well, that motion carries Speaker 12: [00:08:03] K Speaker 9: independent audit status. Mr. Passing coffee mr. Simon Fuller years. With good news, because we have 14 days to get it filed. Speaker 4: Yeah, I talked to Rebecca on Monday. Speaker 14: I filled out all the paperwork that you needed [00:08:18] and I'm going to. Now, all I do is collect all the documents. She still has to send to me, the voucher request, but I have the list for everything else, so I'll send the list that Karen needs to provide plus she needs [00:08:33] to contact. Information for all the Commissioners and the chief staff. So I'll Speaker 4: I guess Karen you can send that to then right. Speaker 14: All right. And so she said hopefully by the end of this [00:08:48] week beginning of next week, she'll send that to me. Speaker 9: In other words, we don't have a chance at getting this thing in by June Speaker 14: 30th. Well, hopefully probably not. Speaker 10: But [00:09:03] you could, you can't anyway unless you had a special meeting because you have to accept the financial statement before it can Speaker 5: go in. All right, well Speaker 7: I mean what I mean this is this is a bit tangential but [00:09:18] honestly Jim how what percent of audits are Speaker 8: actually filed by June 30th for the part of the legislature of directive? Speaker 10: I would say I have no idea but I got [00:09:33] to think it's in the 30% area. Speaker 8: So actually that many do make Speaker 6: it Speaker 14: it's really really hard. They got to be really small fire districts to make it that they don't have any real Financial things [00:09:48] going. All right, once once you get once you got low Speaker 10: sap you have to wait until you get to low sap report, right? Speaker 8: All right. Well, I'm over 8 Speaker 1: then. Speaker 6: I think Speaker 10: [00:10:03] there's always next Speaker 7: year so I got Dodger fan Speaker 9: when they were in Brooklyn. All right, so we're keeping after Speaker 7: that and then we all saw Speaker 9: in the [00:10:18] vouchers that were reviewed per our directive Bob Simon is going to transfer that hundred thousand dollars of the surf. Plus that we Speaker 11: decided that we were going to encumber. Or Speaker 9: [00:10:33] so, you're going to do that posthaste, right? Bob and that will be done, we still at some point have a little bit more Surplus, we can deal with. I'm thinking we wait until we get through [00:10:48] some of these Financial Speaker 8: transactions, relative to the new ambulance relative to hopefully selling that rehab and what other related Speaker 9: expenses occur with that. So unless somebody wants to address that right now, I think we're On a move on. Speaker 2: [00:11:03] Then we also have week. Steve, we also have a $56,000 lesap payment for 2021. It's probably budget though. Yeah, it's budgeted there. Speaker 9: Yeah, we haven't, we haven't done the low-set payment yet. [00:11:18] Have Speaker 1: we? Oh no. Speaker 12: Why don't we get up for Speaker 9: July Bob? Speaker 14: I do look at that because they usually I wait for the invoice from them and so but I'll I think I'll contact him tomorrow and try to get [00:11:33] that phone. Speaker 7: Yeah, we might just, we'll get it Speaker 1: paid. Sure. Speaker 10: And you could, you could, you could split in a cup into pieces Speaker 14: and say you want to pay x amount of dollars. Now and [00:11:48] then when you get the final report that tells you how much they What then then you pay that in a second Speaker 2: installment. I thought we sort of have the report. We've got Speaker 14: the invoice was coming. Speaker 2: [00:12:06] Yeah. Speaker 14: So I just need to get a copy of that if you don't mind. Speaker 7: The always isn't it though. Oh that the final report has Our payment for next year Speaker 2: 49. Something. Speaker 7: Yeah, 4906 [00:12:21] T2. So, that's down Speaker 5: considerably. Yeah. Which is, which is Speaker 7: in some ways, good news. And in some ways, not Speaker 5: But I guess I've said it before, I'll say it again. We [00:12:36] got to get Barney claimed, a lot of Speaker 8: credit for the work for the job that he did in this and getting that get Speaker 9: us to the point where we where we are on this thing. So kudos to Barney on that. Anything else for mr. Pathak off, while we Speaker 2: have them. [00:12:53] Jim, do you have a handle on what it looks like for our Surplus going into next year? Based on what we've been doing in 2020 and Speaker 12: 2021? That really Speaker 10: [00:13:08] fluctuates year-to-year Speaker 14: that much though. Speaker 12: Well Speaker 10: is it's really hard to I just have no clue what you're going to do this year. We can go through [00:13:23] the numbers that we have but we're still taking guests guesses on it if I look right necessary Speaker 2: now. But at some point, In time, we got to [00:13:38] we got to get a stable number that we can use because we're going to need that number. Speaker 14: I think, by the time we have your July meeting, Speaker 10: we'll have a better handle on it because we have to we use the July numbers, Speaker 14: [00:13:53] I'm sorry. The June numbers Speaker 10: to do, the to guesstimate, what the expenses are, going to be for the year for the Speaker 14: budget for next year. Speaker 5: And the math is easy. It's just x 2. Speaker 10: Yes, Speaker 1: [00:14:08] I like easy math. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 5: All right, any other questions for Speaker 14: Jim? Have you decided on when you want to start working on the Speaker 5: budget? Well, in my mind, that like an August [00:14:24] event, Speaker 8: Well, I think in July will line up some meetings. Okay, for meetings for August house. Speaker 5: That sounds Speaker 1: good. All right. Myself a note or August Speaker 6: [00:14:41] budget meetings. Speaker 9: I don't write it down and didn't happen, Okay. Anything else for Jim? All right. Jim, thank you. Have a good Speaker 10: evening you to night everybody. All right, Speaker 9: [00:14:58] I'm Kevin. Yes, I don't think there's anybody at the Wahoo's at the firehouse Bob. Speaker 4: There's Dawn Kevin. There's Speaker 8: Edelson myself. Speaker 9: All right, you got a full crew, then, let's let's [00:15:13] do the facilities committee update and then let's then we'll move to the report. Speaker 12: Okay? Well, All right, so Speaker 13: nothing's come in from Speaker 12: [00:15:28] from Mike. I'm Speaker 13: sure they're still working on that. What I did do is Speaker 12: I Speaker 13: sent Adrian Downs in email instead [00:15:43] of us picking a day and saying, it's okay to go out to sea Falls Village. I sent her an email asking, what would be good for her and her company. The first response [00:15:58] we got back was she was on medical leave and then right away I got something back saying they would love from her to show. Off their facility. So [00:16:13] she picked Speaker 6: out, Speaker 13: there's some evenings, we can go or we can go on a Saturday Speaker 6: morning. Speaker 13: She would not be there that the chief would not be there but the a chief would be there [00:16:28] on Saturday morning. So I'm still thinking we pick a Saturday amongst us and go out there and visit dear their facility. Now, I sent that to [00:16:43] everybody to, so everybody should have Speaker 2: that Mike McCormick needs to have that to. We want him there? Yes. Speaker 13: McCormick's got it too. Okay, I copied him in. [00:16:58] So but so they're saying any Saturday's? Okay they're saying, what is it here? Did it? There was two days during the week that isn't good for them. Let me Speaker 12: just Speaker 13: [00:17:15] How do you get to it? Let's see, hang on evenings, besides Mondays [00:17:30] and Thursdays, or okay. So we could do Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, which I'm sure. We don't want to do a Friday so Tuesday, or Wednesday, evening, or a Saturday, To take a ride out and and [00:17:45] and see it. So I have not heard back from McCormick My Corky from their, from their firm so I guess give it a couple more days. Let me I'll send something back out and [00:18:00] we're get that together and Speaker 12: hopefully I don't Speaker 13: like how long do you think it's going to take? Mike and Keith to put something together to get back to us. I think that's going [00:18:15] to take a little while. I mean they have our list of the needs and and Speaker 6: wishlist Speaker 11: Was that a planet? They were going to do that. Before we go, look [00:18:30] at Falls Villages that they want to get an idea of what Falls Village look like. Before they come up with something, I don't know Speaker 13: why I would think, I would think they would be moving forward with their plans. [00:18:45] You know, and then go look at Falls Village and they can revamp things if they had to. But they, you know, like they said when we met with them, you know, Keith has done this, a number of times. [00:19:01] So I would think I'll reach out to him. Speaker 1: All right. Let us know. Speaker 12: Absolutely. Speaker 1: Alright. Anything else? Kevin Speaker 13: no, I mean, as far as I'm concerned considering where we were three months ago or [00:19:16] three years ago, you know I think we're making steps here. Speaker 1: Yep. Steady progress, Speaker 13: right? Speaker 9: All right. Good enough, thank Speaker 7: you. Okay mr. Estes What do you have for Speaker 10: us? [00:19:32] I have seven calls fire calls for last month, 44 the year. We've already had eight this month. So we're on track of our average of a hundred fire calls a year. [00:19:47] Fire had a course, the perfect response. The drill is on 622, which is our Hazmat module required for all members to have Hazmat. And We have the Hazmat module that we're [00:20:02] going to go over the fiscal applications from our Hazmat trailer and we're actually going to do a walker spill using the containment devices that we have. For those [00:20:17] of you concerned. I'm not going to pour kerosene in Walker's Creek but what I'm going to do is get some apples and use them to indicate the spill that we need to contain. Speaker 14: And what Apple's get away from us. Become dear [00:20:32] food. So I'll go to that. Speaker 10: We have a firefighter and rolled in the firefighter. One class classes are starting to Speaker 14: open up again Speaker 10: and we had one the other day [00:20:47] that came to me on Monday Speaker 14: afternoon. I posted it had two members come up with an interest to take this Speaker 10: building construction class. Speaker 14: and when I might have the company meeting Speaker 10: [00:21:02] and it was filled up, so, They're not supposed to doing that the supposed to be reserving spots will have to talk about Basel about that. But so classes are opening back up evoc [00:21:17] class is on June 23rd at 18:30 at the station and we have three or four members will be taking that fires the response criteria. [00:21:34] The most of the members are doing very well with it as far as making their modules and their fire drills. In fact, I believe densely all active members have already made their required drills to the year. [00:21:49] And we're progressing with modules and Steve knows this stated in to get in the meeting and public record. The Loesch at low sap sheets, are posted each month and the members are to keep track of them. So your words, [00:22:04] the no surprises. Speaker 7: I re emphasize that at the Speaker 8: latest company meeting. Speaker 10: Yo, let's Speaker 2: a little bit more clarification after about a week or two. We're not going to be accepting any points that appear a month or two or six [00:22:19] months Speaker 1: later. I think we proved that last year. Speaker 10: Not my circus, not my monkey. So if it's up to the Commissioners, if somebody says, they [00:22:34] have a challenge, I will process the challenge as part of that, something Commissioners to accept the challenge or not. Speaker 2: It's on. You have to skip the somebody from the company has to sign for those points. So the person that signs, that document, that's the person [00:22:49] that's saying those points are, are valid. Speaker 10: Yes as I did last year and I don't care if that individual get sir. Somebody's those that point, it's none of my business, but I will sign off if they prove that they actually did something that was not [00:23:04] indicated, whether that's accepted by the board, it's not up to me or I really don't have a lot of concern, but that I will cite off. If somebody says I was on this call or whatever and it's proven they were Speaker 2: sign off on them [00:23:19] again a week or two later. Certainly no problem month to three months, not good. Speaker 10: No and billers Briggs is going to be closed on 750 we have [00:23:34] believed this is was stated last Commissioners meeting. We have a contingency plan. Well put in place North Quaker Lane is now closed by Forest Road. The effect [00:23:49] there in on us is increase in traffic that we will see on Center Clinton Halo and Halo Road. So that is basically a response is not a hindrance per se for that, [00:24:04] but we will get increased traffic within our district because of the north Quaker Lane Speaker 6: closure and Speaker 10: God is all I Speaker 6: have. Speaker 13: [00:24:19] Hey, Steve. Can we go back to the facilities committee for a second, Speaker 8: sure, Kevin for Speaker 13: you. Well, Russ. Do you have anything? Speaker 6: No. Speaker 13: Okay, there we go. Is that it? [00:24:34] That was it. Speaker 7: All right. That was easy. And that that extra traffic that Speaker 8: Donna was referring to is going to bring us through one of our most popular intersections in terms of Speaker 1: MVA. So it might be right there. [00:24:49] Ah, Kevin, what do you Speaker 14: got? Only thing I have is the ambulances do for oil change and I'm just trying to hold off till we get the new one. Then I said To Junior about it and he said is your new ambulance [00:25:04] going to need an oil change? This is I won't know until we get. That's what this that they were going to do the service Speaker 2: side. They did say the Speaker 10: room service so Speaker 14: that's only thing I really have is I'm waiting for new animal to come and then I'll get [00:25:19] the old rambling serviced Speaker 8: and then what the Angels might be delayed a little bit. Tom Casey is sharing it, they did that. They had an issue with the paint job or something so I'm not sure exactly. What that means. It might go in a July Speaker 1: now. Speaker 7: [00:25:34] Okay, EMS. What do you Speaker 1: have? Speaker 4: EMS. We had 16 Speaker 12: calls for the month, 75 polls for the year. Speaker 1: So Speaker 14: we're holding an EMS drill on [00:25:49] June 29th. That's pretty much it. We are. We are we do have two members that need CPR. So we're going to be doing that. I'm going to try to get a thumb, [00:26:04] if not this weekend next weekend. That's pretty much it for the mouse, for waiting, for a new ambulance. Speaker 9: All right? Anybody have any questions for any of the persons who have been given the report? Speaker 10: Oh, could you switch that back to make a Speaker 13: second? [00:26:19] I have Speaker 10: one more comment that is in the vehicle that's going on. [00:26:34] I'm working with the rehab. To ensure that we don't have a problem here with a lack of the rehab vehicle. So we're doing a few Desperate stopgap [00:26:49] Measures to ensure Speaker 14: that, Speaker 8: for example, the mr. Is transported. And so we're, we Speaker 14: can't let the rehab times go completely. We can't let it go at all, ever. Speaker 10: [00:27:05] We're working on some stopgap measure. Sirs in lieu of the probability of the current vehicle Speaker 1: going away. So Speaker 10: we, all right, make sure that we are compliant and [00:27:20] what we need to do in the safety for our firefighters. Speaker 14: I'm also on the initial. We're doing some of the MS with a rehabber. Speaker 10: Yes, you are definitely doing rehab or definitely rehab what would be using the mr. We're not going to be doing Decon but [00:27:35] with rehab good critical. Especially critical accent. Thank you Hane. All right. Any other Speaker 9: questions for Dawn or Speaker 1: bobber? Kevin. Good deal. All right. [00:27:50] Moving right Speaker 7: along. I have a letter from the town of Clinton. Planning Speaker 1: board. Speaker 11: Dear sir/madam regarding seek Speaker 9: review leading in Rosenthal, [00:28:05] special permit and soil. Erosion playing the town of Clinton planning board declared their intent to be the lead Agency for this unlisted action, and uncoordinated review, for the above referenced application. On Tuesday, April 20th, your agency [00:28:20] was listed as an interested agency. Enclosed are the site plan and special permit act application, short for me AF and Site plan. Again the planning board request the response from your office as soon as possible. This is all, [00:28:35] this is as soon as possible. Please check all the boxes below that applying return this letter to the address below within Speaker 8: 15 days. We missed that first Speaker 9: choice. We can send to the town of Clinton planning board serving as lead Agency on this application. Second [00:28:50] choice, we do not consent to the town of Clinton planning board serving as lead Agency on this Speaker 7: application, wish to contest lead agency. Speaker 9: Determination on. New Speaker 8: procedures found in some New York state code, 6 Speaker 1: 17.6. Speaker 12: Third choice, Speaker 7: our [00:29:05] agency's jurisdiction on this application is Speaker 8: as follows interested fill in the blank or fourth Point. Potential issues of Speaker 7: concern Speaker 8: are as follows. Fourth choice, please Speaker 7: provide any additional comments on [00:29:20] the reverse side Speaker 9: of this letter or attach them to this letter. If you have any questions, please then direct them to Speaker 7: Arlene Campbell at the PB Z BP Speaker 1: bcba. So Speaker 7: [00:29:35] I think, generally speaking. In this situation, we would consent to the town of Clinton planning board serving Speaker 8: as lead agency, is there any reason that anybody could list that we would not Speaker 11: proceed on that path? [00:29:52] Oh, I think that'd be wise to check that box. The only concern I would have is if I remember looking at the drawing before I presented it to you, is the Speaker 10: radius that might be in that driveway Speaker 11: would be something. We [00:30:07] would write down as a concerned Speaker 10: so that there would be Speaker 11: accessible for fire truck. They get up there, you know, Speaker 7: And is that a concern under secret Rod or is that just a concern that we might Speaker 4: have absolute rennick? Might have sought [00:30:22] a secret concern. That would be something to be addressed at the public hearing on the the Speaker 2: project. Okay, Russ. Can you go? Speaker 11: I have no idea. I don't know any public hearings going to be. Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't either. All right, so I Speaker 7: make a motion that [00:30:37] I be authorized to check the box that we can send to the town of Clinton planning board serving as leesia agency and For nice. Back to the Tomic. Town and covet a Speaker 11: second. So I got it any Speaker 1: discussion. [00:30:53] Russ what you Speaker 11: pleasure. Hi Speaker 1: Bob Jasinski I'm Kevin I Speaker 7: I would I as Speaker 8: well, motion carries. I will make sure that they get their letter back. Does anybody [00:31:08] want the package? There's, Speaker 12: it's Speaker 9: about that Speaker 1: thick. Speaker 12: This dog wants to make look out. Speaker 1: What's Speaker 13: that? Russ wants to make a copy. [00:31:23] All right. You can have Speaker 2: it. Hey Steve does Don want to take a quick look at that? That driveway that might be worth while Speaker 7: he could do. I can save this light a site plan back and we can take a look and determine if we want to go to that [00:31:38] public hearing or Speaker 1: not. Yeah, it might save Speaker 2: some grief Downstream. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 5: All right. Speaker 1: Secret return. Speaker 8: All right. What else we have Speaker 7: Lohse at Bob there was some new legislation [00:31:53] you just want to touch on that so people know what's going on. Then we can review this Speaker 1: annual report Speaker 2: one. Was that let's see I'm not sure [00:32:08] it got signed or not increase the years that you can collect, 250 Rod, did that? Get passed, not yet, not yet. And the And I think did get past. There's a list of company activities [00:32:23] that a district can opt to give points for and I sent the I sent the email out on it and that did get passed. Speaker 9: But again, that doesn't apply to use Speaker 4: plan that applies [00:32:38] to districts that have more than one company for more than one Squad. So so for example use fish has got six different firehouses if there is a grass fire and station one stations, two, three, four, five, and six [00:32:53] don't get dispatched for So then all of the members were stationed, one would get the credit and the call number would not be included in the other companies. Numbers, those are going to have six different, most sap calculations one for each company. Speaker 2: [00:33:08] Okay, what wasn't there a blurb about internal company activities that they increased the ability to give points for Speaker 4: Yes, if you, for example, if company, in these fish kills company ones, fire, police got dispatched [00:33:23] to help with traffic control of the fire company or the rescue squad did not. You can give separate points for the fire. Police only being dispatched, Speaker 2: boy, I'm glad we don't have to keep her track of that. Okay, Speaker 1: thanks rod. Speaker 5: [00:33:39] All right. And then we got our Speaker 1: Service Awards Speaker 7: program executive summary Speaker 1: and I think Speaker 7: everybody got a copy of this if I'm not mistaken. Speaker 2: Well, the Commissioners Speaker 12: did. Speaker 1: [00:33:55] All right. Speaker 5: Blah blah blah, Speaker 7: 20:22 will be 49. Speaker 8: O62 will need that for Budget Speaker 12: purposes. Speaker 5: And are you still Speaker 12: there? Speaker 9: [00:34:21] Is that a yes that is there Speaker 11: muted. Speaker 5: All right well that's good because Speaker 7: the following people need a completed beneficiary, designation form, take notes, random Speaker 1: Kali. Speaker 7: [00:34:37] Heather Speaker 1: Fitzsimmons, Brandon Speaker 7: Maisonette. Speaker 1: And Patty van Speaker 7: leuven. Also to Neil Martin but I don't know that we were going to see her, so Speaker 5: I won't put that one on you, but if you could Chase Speaker 7: [00:34:52] beneficiary, forms on those four people. Nathan Silvius was removed from the eligible Speaker 1: list for the participating Speaker 2: list. Steve you are you do want me to sign that letter and give [00:35:07] it to Karen? Speaker 5: And what letter do we have to Speaker 2: sign out on that topic for the gentleman? You just mentioned. Speaker 5: Okay, we need to sign that one. Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it [00:35:22] in front of me. It's a it's a forfeiture letter. And that came from Penn Plax for us to Terry, why don't Speaker 5: read that letter. So then and then move that, you be love and [00:35:37] power to sign on behalf of the board. Speaker 2: Okay. Dear Nathan under the provisions of the East couldn't fire district service award program on non-vested service award program participant. Ceases [00:35:52] ceases, being a program participant as of the last day of the calendar year. During which he she ceases to be an active member of the Clinton, volunteer fire department and he's Clinton fire district service award [00:36:07] program. Participant becomes 100% vested upon either occurring, five years of service credit, reaching the entitlement age, while an active member being awarded a total and permanent disability. [00:36:22] And that's all they say, being awarded a total and permanent disability or dying while inactive. Member, since you ceased being an active member of the Clinton volunteer fire department while on non-vested program, participant Speaker 14: your [00:36:37] participation in the East but entire Speaker 2: District service award Speaker 14: program ceased Speaker 2: as of December 31st 2020 consequently, your crude service award and your one year of service credit earned up to December 31st [00:36:52] 2020 has been forfeited. However, if you again become an active member of the cliff, Volunteer fire department 5 years and subsequently earn a year of service credit. Your forfeited service credit [00:37:07] and your service award will be Speaker 6: restored. Speaker 1: Okay. And that and Speaker 7: that is looking at that was addressed to Nathan is looking for a signature from the Speaker 2: board. [00:37:22] The low sap administrator of the district, or you can do it as the chair. Speaker 7: Now I move we Empower Bob to sign that document. I covered a Speaker 11: second Okay. Speaker 5: All right. [00:37:37] Russ. What's your Speaker 11: pleasure? Hi Speaker 7: Kevin. I Speaker 9: who am I missing? Russ? Kevin Speaker 1: Bob hi. Speaker 8: I would I as well. Motion carries. All right, sign it and get it to Karen Speaker 4: you know. Right. [00:37:52] Steve question should be posed to pain Flex as to who is responsible for keeping track of the beneficiary statements. Some Those sap administrators [00:38:07] keep track of the beneficiary statements. Some do not. And it's important because let's say everyone's, let's say Steve. Your beneficiary statement is in a name is Beth as your beneficiary pain flux has it in a district, has it subsequent to that [00:38:22] point in time. You name somebody else's your beneficiary and give it just to the district. So now pain Flex has a beneficiary form listing bath and the Strike has a beneficiary form [00:38:37] listing, your son Nathan, perhaps which One controls? Speaker 8: That was shit. Bob make that inquiry or pain Flex. Speaker 4: Yes, who was responsible for? Maintaining the beneficiary? Statements pain flexor, the district, Speaker 2: can I get it verbally [00:38:52] or do I need it Speaker 4: in writing? I'd get it in, writing from him, Speaker 2: got it. I'll take care of Speaker 5: it. All right. Good point. Thanks rod. And the Speaker 7: only other thing I see in this annual report Speaker 8: as I summarize, it worth mentioning, is that we are a hundred and five percent Speaker 9: [00:39:08] funded and that Speaker 1: is Speaker 8: Most excellent and I do have some beneficiary designation forms here. I can make you some copies when you need them, Speaker 7: anything else on low Speaker 1: sap. Speaker 14: [00:39:28] Okay. So we can include the beneficiary form in those five with those five letters if you Speaker 11: want. Yeah. Do you did you get a copy of the beneficiary for them or have a copy of it? Yeah, all right. That'd be great. Speaker 12: [00:39:43] Thank you, Karen Speaker 2: Steve, you had a question on the new low sap program at the seven hundred dollar level. Do you want to defer that I? Speaker 5: Well I mean appoint a Speaker 7: conversation and it's it's [00:39:58] zero impact right now but when we went to the defined contribution plan on, we went Speaker 8: to the maximum which is seven hundred dollars a year, which we all agreed at that time. Or at least it's my It's my Speaker 5: understanding or my [00:40:13] memory says, we all agreed that we Speaker 7: thought 700 was lean. We knew there was a bill pending to increase Speaker 9: it to $1,200 which I believe Speaker 4: past it did. So if we were Speaker 7: to modify that plan, that would be [00:40:28] a Speaker 2: referendum that we'd have to float. Yeah. Yes, it would take some time, but so we should if we're thinking on it, we need to start sooner than later, Speaker 7: right? Speaker 9: Impact as of right now is [00:40:43] whether whether it's 700 1200 or Speaker 7: 25 million dollars, a year is 0 because we have not had any people come in Speaker 8: and and maintain their membership under the new Speaker 1: plan become so. The real [00:40:58] impact right now Speaker 8: is 0 hopefully in time we would have an impact because that would be mean meaning we'd be getting new members. Speaker 2: The new. Hopefully, new firefighters. Yep, firefighters and Speaker 1: EMTs. Yes, so Speaker 7: [00:41:13] I, you know, I don't know what people think of that Speaker 2: I do. What is done? Think about, if we did that, have you any discussions with him? I'm not. It would help him get more firefighters. Speaker 12: [00:41:30] Hey, what do you know? It's Speaker 10: in the realm of possibility that is Speaker 12: this. Speaker 6: So, Speaker 2: If you think it will down will support you and will [00:41:45] proceed on that Speaker 7: effort to broaden. The steps would be the board would have to Speaker 1: resolve to Speaker 8: do a referendum and you'd have to do the language for the Speaker 4: referendum. That's correct. And it would be, I would suggest [00:42:00] it would be on the ballot in December, unless you want have a special and I don't want to Speaker 8: special election for this at least. So we've got a month or two to Speaker 1: Consider it defined Speaker 5: a good point, Bob Speaker 6: contribution Speaker 1: [00:42:18] will sap. 1200 Speaker 5: might want to put it on your more than likely pending list for I Speaker 8: just get so language out. Speaker 11: So anytime you increase the amount, if you increase it now, or anytime you appreciate a future, you'll have to go to [00:42:33] a vote of the public. Yes, that's correct. And the reason now we have a maximum of seven hundred per year, they would get Is the reason that they pass it because of inflation and stuff, we're going to need to be raised. Speaker 4: [00:42:49] I don't know why, they raise a dollar amount. Originally, the maximum amount is $480, and then probably about 15 years ago, they rated it a seven hundred, and now they've seen fit to raise to 1200. I don't know that legislators [00:43:04] thinking in that process, Speaker 11: well, I mean, I think that since we haven't had anybody that has fallen under this That maybe we order consider just only off until we see if we get members and any time [00:43:19] in the future, I guess you could do it. You could do it now or two years from now Speaker 4: or you and it doesn't need to be 1200. It could be somewhere between seven and 12 900 Degrees. Speaker 7: Well, or we could we authorize up to 1200 and then would be the Speaker 8: board decisions to what we put in. [00:43:34] Ooh, Speaker 4: no! No! You, the board resolution has to be passed first and then the vote second. So the board To resolve how much you want to raise it to and the public votes on it. Speaker 1: Okay, Speaker 10: so what [00:43:49] are the, what are the people in the Speaker 11: old Mo sap system? Get a year to get $25 a month, Speaker 2: right? No, it's $20 per month for a year for each year, that they get their 50 points [00:44:04] and that grows each year. Speaker 11: So for one year, they would get 220 Speaker 2: protons 20 and then the second year, would be 43rd Speaker 1: year 60. Speaker 8: You've got ten years [00:44:19] in Rust, you got two hundred dollars a Speaker 1: month. But with the $700 Speaker 11: how? How soon do they get that out? That's it. Under the new plan. Do they have to have so many years before they get Speaker 4: 700? Now have five you need to have five [00:44:34] years in to be vested and once you're vested in our new program, you get $700 a year credited to your account for each year, you get 50 points. So then when you reach, When You Reach retirement age, you got [00:44:49] a lump sum payment of whatever, has been accumulated in your Speaker 11: account. So we, they get credited 700, but the amount they get, is it dependent upon some investment where money is invested in something and Which Speaker 4: increases [00:45:04] for the assist for the defined contribution programs where $700 a money is invested by the by the plan administrator and it's usually in a very safe investment. It's usually invested in an annuity contract or in a bond fund so you're not going to lose [00:45:19] principle but you will gain some interest on it. So you will get principal and interest when you reach the entitlement age. Speaker 11: But would they get automatically at least 700 per year of active time? So Speaker 4: if they had known The have to meet to have to get five [00:45:34] years of participation at that, five years with 50 points, and you only get the seven hundred dollars in your account, if you make the 50 points per year, Speaker 11: okay? So Sadie, had five years that they had Points each time, how much money [00:45:49] would they get for five years? I'm going to be five times, seven hundred thirty five hundred to you, Speaker 4: then we get a lump sum of $3,500. It's not 35 in dollars a year. It's a lump sum of $3,500 plus whatever. Crystal is grown on that Speaker 11: money. Okay, [00:46:04] so they get a lump sum the other people, get it as long as they lived, Speaker 4: right? That's correct. Speaker 2: I thought it was 43 years Rod, Speaker 11: it's 40 years, Speaker 2: 40, 40 years, 40 years, Speaker 9: [00:46:21] Someone 1 R Speaker 7: Us in some aspects, resembles a pension Speaker 8: and the other, in some aspects, resembles, a 401k kind of Speaker 4: plan. Deferred compensation, Wilfred comp? Speaker 2: Yeah. There we go. We control our expenses [00:46:36] on the the new plan tighter, if you will. Speaker 8: All right, any other questions on low Speaker 7: sap? [00:46:51] Or write, I have not heard back more than likely because they're just reading the letters to the Speaker 5: board, anything from and regards Speaker 8: to the letters, I sent out for, Speaker 5: to the mutual Aid. Speaker 1: Companies Speaker 5: July July Speaker 7: is [00:47:06] around the Speaker 5: corner, even before I got your Speaker 8: note Rod, that said that it would seem Speaker 9: doubtful that New Speaker 8: York City is going to extend their Speaker 5: modification to the open meeting laws to allow these, this kind of Speaker 1: format. Speaker 5: [00:47:22] It was it was on my list of Speaker 1: to to Speaker 5: talk about how we wanted to do July, but if it's not extended, we don't have a Speaker 8: choice. We can do it. We can only do it at the Speaker 1: firehouse. I think, Speaker 7: one thing we have to [00:47:37] consider Speaker 1: is Speaker 7: If we want to continue to Speaker 8: broadcast it and resume format and I think that would still be allowed to allow people to attend remotely, is that correct Speaker 4: Rod? But nothing [00:47:52] prevents you from doing that, Speaker 1: okay? And if we Speaker 7: decide that my observation from when we did a work, show a workshop and try to try to allow people to listen in as we were rather Speaker 8: ineffective of at that because we were spread [00:48:07] throughout the Speaker 1: whole Speaker 7: Rome trying to maintain shall tame some kind of distancing. What kind of Speaker 14: format would we want to have to allow Speaker 8: people to listen in remotely? I guess is the question and, and what can we do? Bob to increase [00:48:22] the technology, Bob Speaker 1: Simon to put, put better wheels on that. Speaker 6: Unmute. Speaker 12: [00:48:39] It's a techno guy you can unmute. Oh yeah. Speaker 14: Now, we can pick a set up a tripod and maybe put some put it on the tripod. But the town hall has [00:48:54] its camera. I don't think you need to go to that eco-freak. Probably do some of the not pad or something, put it on a tripod, but then somebody would have to move it around. Speaker 2: Bob, I worked on the video system early on [00:49:09] that. That existed in the town, we can do a wide angle lens. We don't need to see people individually. And as long as we got good audio and we have proper angle and we don't need [00:49:24] to see the don't need to see the other than the people that are on the board. And of course the chief so we could get the Speaker 7: phones. What could we do for a couple of Speaker 8: microphones so that [00:49:39] people could hear? Speaker 13: I could you do like a drop microphone Speaker 2: for. I may have I have boundary Mike's that we can utilize the hook into [00:49:55] You could do blue, Bluetooth connection, into something like an iPad or a ThinkPad I can talk about it later. And then Speaker 7: the question is, if we Empower Bob and Bob to work on this to you need a budget or [00:50:10] do you think already or do you think not? Speaker 2: Not right now we'll see what the bits and pieces we can get together but I have a question for Rod because Steve is thinking in one way, If the open meeting [00:50:25] laws, go back to normal, we cannot prevent somebody from coming in to our regular meeting even if we transmit it. So Steve, this would be a good adjunct, but we still have to worry about [00:50:41] not that it has happened. Filling up the small room and because I get nervous about that one. We can't prevent people from coming in Speaker 7: and and that's correct now. Speaker 5: So, I'm not advocating. This we [00:50:56] could I assume require people to have mass when they come in. Speaker 8: I read an article today that I know you're all going to find this Speaker 1: amazing that Speaker 9: 99% of the people that are Speaker 1: currently [00:51:11] hospitalized or Speaker 8: otherwise under the care for of a physician for covid-19 did not get vaccinated. It's an amazing fact but it does say that the Speaker 1: Nations are effective. [00:51:26] No, Speaker 8: you're right Bob, but I think if we offer the service that people might feel the same way that you do. And and if, if they're it, if it's available to view from home, they might take us up on that. And that would cut down the crowding. Speaker 2: The we don't [00:51:41] know amongst ourselves though. It's not a HIPAA violation to ask Rod. You can back me up on that one. Who's vaccinated in our group can? We use the area [00:51:56] where the Speaker 1: trucks are to have our meeting Speaker 2: for a short time. Because there's no air flow in our small R, small room mask, or not, and air flow is critical. Even, even more than masks, Speaker 11: [00:52:12] we don't know if they will create what I think. I think if you put a sign on the door, like as in most places that I go now, it's fully vaccinated, people do not have to wear Speaker 8: face masks, you're Speaker 11: putting the responsibility on people that hopefully aren't vaccinated [00:52:27] to wear a face mask. And I don't think you're going to have that amount of people coming to our Meetings unless you have something controversial on that, you couldn't just open up the meetings and not worry about broadcasting it for [00:52:42] people to watch at Speaker 6: home. Speaker 1: Just just my opinion Speaker 7: but I think Rod correct me if I'm wrong, the only requirements are that the [00:52:58] gives me the meeting has to be in the Speaker 5: district Speaker 4: and we would have to give Speaker 8: ample notice of where it is to be held. That's correct. Speaker 2: So you're suggesting maybe we start asking the town to see if we could have our meeting in [00:53:13] the town hall. That's out of work. Not that would work. It's a big room. And a much better airflow. Speaker 8: You do you want to do you want to pursue that Bob? I Speaker 2: mean anybody have an addiction. I'll begin asking the question for the town [00:53:28] hall and somebody should ask the question for maybe one of the other areas you've got the historical society that but that's not very big and there's no air flow in that but the church [00:53:43] the where we're voting, maybe somebody could ask about that as Back up Speaker 7: the church and Schultz Ville is a possibility. Now, Speaker 1: Rod, Speaker 7: neither you nor Jim pasta coffin or any Speaker 8: of the Chiefs would have to attend [00:53:58] in person, right? You could attend remotely, Speaker 4: we can still attend Ramona. That's correct. Okay. Speaker 2: I like your big Meeting Hall in your church, that one is really good. You want me to Speaker 5: ask [00:54:13] on that? I'll ask Speaker 2: on that. Yeah I'll ask the town hall. You ask that and then we'll ND about some emails and see what makes sense, anybody having Speaker 8: the date in July and August. Speaker 14: [00:54:36] August 11, Speaker 5: July 14th, August Speaker 14: 11th. Speaker 5: All right, I'll last two months in advance. And Speaker 9: Bob, you'll ask the other people. And then we'll, Speaker 1: we'll [00:54:52] get Speaker 9: the information to Karen. And ample times, anybody have any objection to Speaker 5: this Ross or Speaker 9: from Kevin, you okay? With this concept Ike, I Speaker 12: like Steve, okay. Well, Speaker 4: the chief has something to ask. Speaker 3: I'm had Speaker 10: [00:55:07] to fuse, because I got the email, you probably all got today from the town, supervisor stating that everything was wide open, and I asked him to the point of, okay, right? Ray, advise and counsel, can we go forward? [00:55:22] As far as your interpretation New York, state regulations with the state a lobster dinner responded back. Absolutely can Speaker 2: so it cannot therefore, Speaker 10: I don't Durst. And [00:55:37] it's opened up what the problem is. I don't Speaker 2: understand. Speaker 12: the Speaker 2: reason one of the reasons why you want a new Firehouse is that meeting room is totally inadequate, there is no air flow, and if we pack people [00:55:52] in there and some of them, some people, whether they be civilians or members, or Commissioners, whatever with no air flow or some people in Speaker 12: Hazard, Okay. I mean Speaker 8: look [00:56:07] at it on and make Speaker 10: this. Why you're doing this out of due diligence? God bless you but not by law? Speaker 1: No, not by long fight. Speaker 9: Now, speaking of the lobster dinner, does anybody have it on Jackson to the company Speaker 8: holding [00:56:22] a lobster dinner in the Speaker 9: facility? And Rob, does the district have Speaker 8: any liability exposure if we allow such an activity in this? In this Speaker 4: current environment, not that, the governor has opened [00:56:37] up the lifted the restrictions. No, there's no liability to have been done. Speaker 9: All right, as anybody, you have an objection to, if, if we get to 70% as a state and and Speaker 8: Como opens it up, anybody have any objections to the company, [00:56:52] having the lobster Speaker 9: dinner as playing at the end of Speaker 1: September. Let's do it. Speaker 6: All right. Speaker 11: Speak now or forever? Hold your Speaker 1: peace. Speaker 5: All right, I'll pursue that. Speaker 7: Um and we'll get back to people care and you'll have him plenty [00:57:07] of time. To Speaker 1: put the notice out now, Speaker 9: broad you and I had brief discussion and I want to keep this void of names people, [00:57:23] okay? But and if we have to go to Executive session, we will, if we have to start using names and get more specific, we Speaker 12: will the company had a situation where a Speaker 5: social and, or life Speaker 1: [00:57:38] member Speaker 9: lost control had his hair catch on fire couple three times on and in meetings that were specifically subsidiary meetings and [00:57:53] company business only and Speaker 7: the company Speaker 9: made the decision to Speaker 1: discipline this individual Speaker 8: Right? You? And I talked and you indicated that the Speaker 9: district doesn't really have a dog in [00:58:08] this fight. Is that Speaker 4: correct? The only thing that I would say that the district should would be some documentation from the company about what the company did. All right and and that should go into the individuals file, Speaker 9: all right. Can [00:58:23] you provide that Ed Speaker 12: if they can? All right, if you would be so kind out, appreciate that, the Speaker 1: second and and Speaker 8: What comes out of this is currently the district. Speaker 1: [00:58:38] Only requires active responding members to have a hostile Speaker 8: workplace and sexual Speaker 5: harassment training. Speaker 8: Rod is it out of bounds for the district to Speaker 1: [00:58:53] require Life Speaker 7: Social and any other participating Speaker 8: member of the department to have said, Speaker 4: training? And as much as the district allows the company to utilize [00:59:08] the district's buildings, the district is well within its bounds to require any member of a company. Regardless of category take the required sexual harassment and hostile workplace training. All right, Speaker 7: so I would therefore Speaker 1: move [00:59:24] that the district Speaker 8: and in light of the events of the last several Speaker 1: months, require Speaker 7: Any participating in Speaker 8: active social or life member or [00:59:39] probationary member as as soon as Speaker 7: reasonably possible Speaker 8: to partake Speaker 1: of hostile workplace and sexual harassment training? Think that's it. And think I forgot Rod. Speaker 4: No. [00:59:54] But I would make it even even broader any, any individual who was on the company membership rolls? Is required to take the training. Speaker 1: So what about life members that are kind of Speaker 6: [01:00:10] Dyer, Speaker 7: retired, life members that are kind of in in and Speaker 5: they feel like they get up to, Speaker 7: and I'm using this, you know, maybe feel like they want to show up to a A meeting once every five Speaker 8: [01:00:25] years but you're on the Speaker 2: roles. They are known to the company. Speaker 1: I'm just wondering how we word that. So we maintain Speaker 8: the Dignity of the retired [01:00:40] life members and an aren't really throwing them out on their Speaker 2: ears. None of this throws them away, is just do this. Come and drink come and enjoy. Speaker 8: But I think the key is, if we, if they're going to participate, they have to have [01:00:55] this. If they're not going to participate, we don't really Speaker 6: care Speaker 4: or I don't care. Well, if you know, they don't participate. So they show up once and five years but at the one time they show up they go ballistic. [01:01:11] That that's the exposure, the district has. Speaker 2: But isn't that true for civilians that are invited in by the company? Also. Speaker 4: Yeah. But they're not company members. That there are there the the guests you can't you can't [01:01:26] have the entire town before us to take the program. Speaker 2: Know somebody some agency, either the board or the company officers have to take responsibility. For controls of the people [01:01:41] that they're bringing in, that's where I'm getting at. Speaker 4: Well, how does, how do you expect the town to have that? Require everyone that walks into town hall? Speaker 2: I don't I what I, what I'm I'm not, I'm not proposing it, I'm [01:01:56] saying, who's the responsible Authority? The board isn't present when the company invites people in weather, for whatever reason. I do not understand if people that are [01:02:11] like members Speaker 1: that come once in a blue moon Speaker 2: or people that are invited in for whatever reason by the company it's really I almost am thinking that the board should Speaker 1: even Speaker 2: get involved with it. It's the [01:02:26] company's problem then don't want Speaker 4: to know it. Is it is the board's. Problem it borders. The is lawyers problem that the board is the employer in this Speaker 2: situation. Not for inanna, I agree with you for active members, but for [01:02:41] non active members, I'm not sure I understand. The employee part. Speaker 4: Well how do you decide the terms of being the guy that shows up once every five years in the guy that shows up twice every five years or Speaker 2: that they're still not [01:02:56] active, they're not they're not, Speaker 4: okay, so they're not active but they're showing up every Speaker 6: month. Speaker 2: But they're not employees Speaker 1: of the district. Speaker 4: So you're proposing only active, Speaker 2: firefighters active [01:03:11] firefighters, that's of the interest of the board non-active, firefighters is of the interest of the company and you put the responsibility on the company officers. Speaker 11: Well, if the person is a life member, they're not [01:03:26] active but they're still a life member. I don't see a problem with saying if you want to Speaker 7: Dissipate and activities are 10 things. Speaker 11: You must take this training, you know, it's what somebody disinvited if [01:03:41] they come in and act up then it's at that time. You hit the tell a person you have to leave and you're not allowed to come back because they're not a member Speaker 2: but something like that happened fairly recently and Rod and and Steve corrected me [01:03:56] that it wasn't of interest of the board. And I see the same thing. Are non active members really are the interest of the company and the responsibility [01:04:11] of the company because the company can say no you can't come in, or do you have to leave? But it's not the the board. Not the five of us were not there, Speaker 11: but I think the buck stops with the Speaker 6: commissioners [01:04:26] No, Speaker 2: on active members, non active members, I'm not so sure. Speaker 1: Kevin Fiera what do you got? Well Speaker 12: I'm kind [01:04:41] of leaning towards Speaker 13: Bob. I mean, if how can we Control non active members. Speaker 1: Well, I mean Speaker 5: [01:04:58] I think that's all. I have a lawyer during Speaker 7: active responding members and Speaker 8: active department members who are no longer active responding members. And I think my perspective Speaker 1: would be that if [01:05:13] we Speaker 7: don't have a requirement of this Speaker 8: training, we're, Speaker 7: there's almost an Speaker 9: implied. It's almost an inference that, Speaker 1: that Speaker 14: You know, Speaker 8: how would a lawyer Speaker 7: perceive this? If somebody is [01:05:28] somebody, if somebody got out of Speaker 8: control and did personal damage, and we Speaker 7: didn't have, what would we be opening ourselves up to a Speaker 13: lawsuit? Well, Steve in my environment where I work, we have to, we [01:05:43] take these classes every year, it's so, I would think every member definitely should be Taking these classes, not that I really, I don't like it, but I think [01:05:58] that every member should you take his classes but like, Bob Saves someone's coming in that hasn't been a member for five six years. That's not really how we going to control that. Speaker 11: If they want to [01:06:13] come and participate in things, that's the the thing that they're going to have to do if they want to come and participate. I don't know. I that's what I think Rod was saying, you know. Well, Speaker 4: looking at the law right now in the [01:06:28] law requires you to provide this the training, it doesn't require every member to participate in it. Wow, if you've got a guy that, you know, shows up once every five years, okay? You provided, [01:06:43] the trainees at the opportunity to come, take it to the fact that he hasn't taken it. The board is to protect you because you provided the training, you provided the opportunity for the training. Speaker 13: Okay, I like that. Speaker 11: [01:06:58] That's interesting. Speaker 7: So Speaker 11: you deal on a case-by-case basis based upon the actions of the person, really you tell them hey you got to leave because you know this is not acceptable. Speaker 2: The board's not [01:07:13] going to tell them to leave the company officers are or the chief who who's a district officer. Speaker 1: well, the chief that Speaker 7: if we don't have a policy that social, or life retired Speaker 1: members, [01:07:29] Have this Speaker 5: trading as mandated. I don't think it's a Speaker 8: district situation at that point. If I, if that kind of Speaker 1: member loses control, I think Speaker 8: it's the responsibility of the department in the department executive Speaker 1: [01:07:44] board. Speaker 8: If we don't pass this kind of thing, I would think that maybe the department would want to pass it. So when this happens again, not if, when we've seen a number of tuples, [01:07:59] They have something to back themselves up when they take disciplinary Speaker 1: action. I just Speaker 10: got here, but I'm sort of listening. I think anyone that's on our property, should take the training. Anyone that's interacting with other people that have the [01:08:14] company of the department should be taken the Speaker 9: training. All right. Karen I don't think we got a second for my motion. Can you read my Speaker 2: motion, know II II it like you did okay okay, believe I did. Speaker 14: Well if hey, so the motion, [01:08:31] the motion is that the district require any participating and active social or life member or probationary member to partake of the Hostile workplace and sexual harassment training. I didn't [01:08:46] I didn't have a second on it. I did I might not have Speaker 8: heard. All right. Well Bob Bob Speaker 5: says he's sick and it will have to we'll have to Speaker 2: I think I did. Yeah. Alright it's in my mind anyway. Further Speaker 1: discussion. Speaker 2: Yeah yes there is [01:09:01] another classification of persons people that are not social members of the company, that regularly assist or 10. Functions or activities [01:09:16] at the fire department. We, if we have them, is there any thoughts on Speaker 6: that? Speaker 12: Who would that be? Speaker 11: Yeah. Speaker 2: Any person that is not [01:09:31] a social member that just comes and gives a hand. Yes. Yes. Okay. Speaker 14: Can someone comes help out Speaker 12: the guess the Speaker 8: drink? Yeah, we have one person that I think I saw a sign in that has an occasion Speaker 7: [01:09:48] helped out. I think I think we only have control over what we have control over and we have Speaker 8: control over active. Numbers. And we have control over certain part mental activities because we're the kind of benevolent landlord after that. I think I think [01:10:03] the best we can do like Russ said is just ask that person to Speaker 2: leave. Okay, again, if I understand and I don't disagree with what you just said, Steve, the company needs to know it's their responsibility [01:10:18] for all others that are not encompassed in your resolution. All right, if they have invitees and there's a problem, Speaker 14: it's on them. Speaker 2: They've got to do [01:10:33] whatever they Speaker 5: all right before we vote and you got any input Speaker 12: here? Sounds like it's a good plan for the everyone to take it. I think everybody [01:10:48] should take it. Speaker 11: So we have somebody who falls into this broad [01:11:03] category, who doesn't take it, then how do we act and what do we do? Do we say, okay, what you didn't take it, you're now could not come to any activity. Speaker 10: He's at Speaker 11: the firehouse. I mean, he needs to have the if you don't this is what can't do. Speaker 7: Well in the case of [01:11:18] the person that was a non-member. Speaker 12: Correct. No. These are the these are Speaker 2: associate people that either were active members or life members of the company. They have talking [01:11:33] about, they have to Speaker 12: take it. Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm say that they don't what your Speaker 12: what you may can't help, you know? Speaker 11: And it can't come to any functions and readings are apparently. Speaker 4: [01:11:48] Misbehavior, Speaker 11: bragging, right? Want to make that clear. Yeah, they stole that. If you don't take this, you are no longer be able to be active in any function with the fire department. Correct, right? Speaker 12: Yes. Speaker 7: [01:12:03] All right. Anybody else have anything that we haven't heard Speaker 11: already. I want. See what rod says, but what we're talking about is sound good, right? Well, Speaker 4: yes, it sounds fine. You're going beyond what the law requires and that's okay. The [01:12:18] one comment I would have would be what if somebody comes to the To the board or the company. Now and says I took the workplace harassment training at work. Does that Speaker 1: qualify? Are you going to accept that? Speaker 12: Do you have a certificate to prove Speaker 4: that? Well, [01:12:33] yeah. Are you going to accept it Speaker 12: if you have a certificate? I will Speaker 2: accept it. All right, that the board would have to just add the board has to accept it. Not you Speaker 8: are, we can authorize the department to accept it. Speaker 2: [01:12:48] You're going down a rabbit hole on that. They need, we need documentation on that, Speaker 1: Steve. What 12, what your counsel Speaker 13: right? Steven and and Bob just like myself, I mean, I take this class every [01:13:03] year at the correctional facility. It's I mean I can present a certificate or I can take it at the firehouse. It doesn't matter to me, what I've been doing it. I've been taking that class for 25 Speaker 8: years and you catch. Speaker 9: It hasn't [01:13:18] helped a bit. Speaker 13: No, it has not Speaker 2: Rob, what documentation do we have to have in hand at the board level? If we've got a resolution at the board level Speaker 4: on again, said a certificate from from an employer [01:13:33] that he's taken it Speaker 2: and that has to be in Karen's hands because she is the board. She's The Record Keeper of the Speaker 1: board. Yeah. Yeah, correct. Now Speaker 5: boys. [01:13:48] One other aspect Speaker 9: here is a time to look in the mirror and mandate. That Commissioners, take this training. Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, Speaker 2: yeah. Don't have a problem with Speaker 5: that. All right. We'll make that a separate motion. Speaker 2: Like Sprite. Speaker 12: That being said, [01:14:03] look at Russ. Hodges is a measure. Hi Mike. [01:14:19] Hi Speaker 13: Kevin. Hi. Speaker 9: I've authorized well that motion carries Ed. Please communicate that at the next company meeting. Speaker 12: Thank you. I will. All right Speaker 9: now I also move that Commissioners. Be required [01:14:34] to annually partake of workplace violence and sexual harassment training. I need a second Speaker 14: second. Speaker 8: Okay, any Speaker 12: discussion Thank you all to take it twice a year Speaker 8: Kevin went. Speaker 13: [01:14:51] Well, Speaker 12: hi Speaker 9: sighs. Well that motion carries Speaker 4: [01:15:06] So another example of our legislative Geniuses up in Albany, the sexual harassment, in the workplace, violence training programs, which you're required to provide to your employees, are not required to be provided to [01:15:21] New York state public school. Speaker 1: Teachers, Speaker 4: Go figure perfect. Speaker 2: That's that that sounds like a union Speaker 1: situation. All right. Speaker 7: [01:15:37] Let me see, I Speaker 12: did Speaker 9: sit through on that rainy, Saturday, a couple weeks ago, six, long hours of the commissioner training that I was required to take and one point that I did [01:15:52] pick Speaker 7: up on, was that, Speaker 8: I guess we're required to have our Speaker 9: code of ethics posted. Is that correct Speaker 1: rod? Posted. Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure if it's required to be posted, [01:16:07] and I'm not really, you're required to have a code of ethics, but you don't need to have a board. Speaker 9: Well, they seem to indicate in this class that it should be posted. Speaker 1: Yeah, Speaker 4: that could be. I won't say no. All right, Speaker 9: Karen, [01:16:22] can you post that please? Speaker 12: Yeah, nice job Team. All right, and the case Speaker 2: before, Speaker 8: We need to kick the dead horse again Speaker 2: in our policy. [01:16:38] We're supposed to have a workplace violence, sexual harassment board. If you will, we have never appointed anybody. I thought other words, if Ed get if [01:16:54] we have a problem and a write-up who gets it, we don't have, we have not addressed that, we don't have to fix it. Immediately, when I reread, there are Speaker 13: policy, I see Cats R Us gets it Speaker 12: [01:17:10] board of directors of the company Speaker 2: right hand? No, it's Speaker 11: not your and your Speaker 9: tenure looked at those Speaker 4: policies. Yeah, I looked at it this afternoon and there is a Aboard that Bob refers to [01:17:26] in the policy threat assessment team, right? The threat assessment team Speaker 10: has been completed. It says Speaker 4: here. Well, it's It also says the threat. Assessment team will be the chief assistant Chiefs and each commissioner. [01:17:41] So in that could that extent you have a point to the board the the pan. Speaker 2: Okay. But if a document has to be presented, how does it get? Get in to the board level, does it come through the chief? Speaker 12: [01:17:57] I'm talking about an active member you talking about non active Speaker 2: members acted. Well now it's any any active or inactive member would be involved because we did. We [01:18:12] done a board resolution is not a company. It's not a company document anymore, it's a board Speaker 4: document. The incident has to be reported to the incident copies reported to the team. And as well as one filed [01:18:27] with the chief. So the chief gets to, everybody else gets one. Speaker 12: That's an act member Speaker 2: active or inactive net. This point. Speaker 4: Always Speaker 12: students quite we started this at, they notify Speaker 8: [01:18:46] dead, right? Speaker 7: Yeah. That's you can publish and she can make a copy of that and email it to each of us. Speaker 12: You want a copy of the you want a copy of the complaint? You want a copy of what the court [01:19:01] of directors? Speaker 2: Decided? Yes. Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Ever. There's there's actual Speaker 11: form. I think in this that has to be filled out if I remember Speaker 4: right now, there is a form of the policy incident report form into Speaker 11: policy. [01:19:17] I'm where I print it out, it starts, I believe on the third page. No, no. Ed. Speaker 2: Do you have, do you have your copy of the, the district policies? Because it's Speaker 12: in with me, not with Speaker 2: me. Okay, [01:19:32] what about the cheese? What about the chief? Speaker 13: That I keep in my back pockets on my Speaker 2: desk? Well, that would be helpful if you can take out, take a look at it because that's, that's what this was all Speaker 6: about. Speaker 12: [01:19:47] All right, I'll go see if I can find it. Speaker 6: All right now. Speaker 2: Yeah, really? Yeah, you don't have to do it now. This is not going on all Speaker 1: night. It might. Speaker 12: Okay, Speaker 2: [01:20:03] well Steve you see where I'm coming. We're coming from. If it's if it happened and it's reported. It's got to be in writing and the board has to know if the board doesn't work. No, it didn't Speaker 1: happen and Speaker 8: big noise. Speaker 12: [01:20:19] When this happened, it was not an active Speaker 1: member right? But, but, Speaker 12: but so it was not only week, Speaker 7: you're going to give us copies of then, Speaker 8: and we're going to move on because I don't want to be Speaker 12: here. Okay, give Speaker 11: us [01:20:34] a call. Speaker 9: She will let us Speaker 8: know. Speaker 12: Okay, Speaker 1: Copy, or we have a copy of that. I Speaker 7: think needs as Speaker 9: [01:20:49] District property. Needs to be declared Surplus. It has Speaker 12: officially given up the ghost. Speaker 7: So, I would move that we declare the large copier Speaker 9: that formerly resided in the chief's office as Surplus, and that [01:21:04] it should be disposed of as in thrown away. Not saved. Do I have a second second, Speaker 1: any discussion? Bob what's your pleasure? Hi, Kevin, hi [01:21:19] plus. All right, Mike Speaker 6: I Speaker 9: and I vote, aye as well that motion carries now. Donald Speaker 12: For me on Speaker 9: June 22nd. There was a meeting with [01:21:34] the Milan Stanford. And who Speaker 10: else Milan? Stanford Pine Plains. And he's Clinton was for the sake of the board here. I will reiterate to what I had already told. Steve. [01:21:49] It's next Tuesday night. I got a call. Well, excuse me. Sorry. I got a call from the Stanford cheap yesterday. Requesting my presence in a meeting. With the aforementioned fire districts with concern [01:22:04] of their EMS response and the individual requesting. The meeting said, we are having trouble with response. And so what we're thinking about doing [01:22:19] is having a fly car positioned in the quadrant aforementioned, and And I said, well, you can counties Clinton now. First of all, because [01:22:34] we respond and second of all a fly car, is not going to do any good when you can't get your ambulance off the floor. Anyway, so I've explained that Steve Steve is going to go in my stead because [01:22:49] there is the Speaker 14: Hazmat Grill, which I'll be running that night. He's going to go up and Speaker 10: basically listen to what they have to say. Speaker 14: About joining up and having a paid EMS Speaker 10: service, [01:23:05] shared between Pine Plains East Clinton Stanford and Speaker 14: Milan Speaker 10: very poorly suggested towards me. And towards these Clinic fire district, considering we're the ones recovering some [01:23:20] of these other districts a lot. Anyway, main point is not a bad idea for them but the fly car is an absolute loot. Of course, thought if they want to do it as a BLS unit, then that would make sense of like, our [01:23:35] makes no sense at all. They still can't transport. Hope they got a fly car. Low battery. Bob go bad quickly for some clothes clothing. Speaker 2: If they got a fly Speaker 10: car, we'd still be going and transporting form [01:23:50] anyway. Speaker 7: So this meeting is 1900 hours Speaker 8: at Stanford at Stanford Speaker 1: Firehouse. Yes, sir. All right, so Speaker 7: I was going to go just just to listen and gather Speaker 8: information, Speaker 10: [01:24:09] I don't think your letter fell on deaf ears Speaker 1: seat. Well that's good. Speaker 8: But Jacob, Speaker 7: if you said it this morning, when we discussed it or whenever we discussed it, I didn't I didn't Speaker 8: hear that. It was only for a fly car because that, as you said, make [01:24:24] zero sense, when they send a flying car to the two districts which we sent those Speaker 1: letters. Speaker 8: Lots of times, they're not getting off the floor and that's what they would need to do anyway. So there's it's almost Speaker 5: [01:24:39] Sensical. It is nonsensical I Speaker 2: explained that to him and Speaker 10: the other part is that we're not going to buy in charge our district for a resource that we Speaker 2: rarely need. Thank God, [01:24:54] right? All right. Speaker 8: So unless anybody has any objections, I plan to go to that meeting for information sake. Okay, let me see the drum roll, please. How many bids Karen do we have for the rehab Holden Speaker 14: [01:25:10] on Speaker 1: one one, all we need. Okay, Speaker 6: open it up. Speaker 11: Magic word froggy. Speaker 14: [01:25:31] So to the, he's clutching fire, district, we are willing to pay. For the food truck 13,000. If the generator is fixed 11,000, if not [01:25:46] thank you for your consideration. Roset batad. I'm Sim turn at Speaker 6: Yeah, Speaker 5: I parenthetically I done and I showed this Speaker 13: vehicle, [01:26:01] he Speaker 7: lives in northern New Jersey and he plans to make a Speaker 1: mobile ethnic food truck using primary Speaker 8: ingredient of lamb Speaker 1: intestines. Speaker 11: [01:26:17] What was, what was the minimum bid? I thought it was Speaker 7: 50. They don't bid was 15 so we got to deal with this. So we have Speaker 1: no Beds that have Speaker 7: met the minimum Rod. Are we allowed to decrease that minimum [01:26:32] and honor this bid? Speaker 4: Well, if you honor the bit below the disc, the lowest bid, you almost have to re-advertise because somebody may not have submitted a bid, because I thought the lowest [01:26:47] bid had to be at least 15. Speaker 11: Yeah, the other people held back and you're shifting them. All right? Speaker 13: And is the generator function, Speaker 7: it the generator functions very well for about 35, or 40 Speaker 2: minutes. [01:27:02] Is it still doing that? Is it been tested Speaker 6: recently? Speaker 2: Is it still doing it? Has it been tested recently? Steve Speaker 1: [01:27:18] the last I heard it still does it? I'm sorry. Speaker 2: Well and that's what the reducing, the oil level that we talked about as a been reduced Speaker 7: further, it has not been reduced further. Speaker 8: It's okay. So [01:27:33] we're Speaker 2: back where we were about maybe eight nine months longer than that the tests that need to get done. Haven't been done yet. Pull the oil out. So it's just kisses the end because the length of that oil dipstick [01:27:48] is incorrect. Speaker 1: Okay, Speaker 2: and I can do it. Now that I know how to Speaker 1: start it. Well, so if we have to [01:28:03] Repost the, the listing. Speaker 7: I would I would move that we, Speaker 1: I would we [01:28:18] move that we repost it for a minimum of $10,000. Speaker 6: 11. That's Speaker 2: that, that was his low end. Okay, buy it at 11 with the broken generator, [01:28:33] all right? Speaker 8: So I will move that we Bri post it for Speaker 1: a minimum of eleven thousand Speaker 8: dollars and that we open bids at the Speaker 1: August [01:28:48] meeting. I'll Speaker 7: second I mean not August July meeting, July Speaker 1: mine. July meeting Speaker 10: Steve. That actually works quite well because that solves the problem of, you know, having a stopgap, measure the private safety [01:29:03] so there's no problem with that. Speaker 8: Okay? Alright, so I just want to make sure that Bob seconded the he did here it was July meeting. Speaker 2: Yep. Okay. There's any that too soon. Is that July meeting too soon or August opening [01:29:18] in August? Speaker 14: So now let's go. Speaker 5: I think I think, Speaker 13: I think July is good. I think we. Okay. Speaker 7: Okay, we gotta move before the food season Speaker 1: disappears. Okay. And Speaker 7: [01:29:33] Rod tell me again we would need a certified Bank, Speaker 8: cheque or cash. Is that what will Speaker 1: take? Yes. Speaker 6: Okay Speaker 11: Cash in an envelope. No, I would I don't know if it's a simple thing. That Bob said [01:29:48] to take more oil out Speaker 2: is it's a test to test with the information that I've got. It's a simple thing to do it. Then we've got to run it to see if it affects anything. I Speaker 11: mean, if if you want, I'd be willing to go with Bob and [01:30:03] see if we do that to see if we can get it run more than an hour and say whether it's fixed or not, you know, Speaker 5: that'd be perfect but that Speaker 7: So if that's let's vote on this motion and then he offered 11, if it does the work and [01:30:18] 13, if it does, is that what it Speaker 14: was? or to understand if the generator is fixed, if it's not Speaker 1: all right, Speaker 13: what if I would, I would [01:30:33] it's just going to take it for 11. Yeah, I would put it. Speaker 10: Too Speaker 13: low, I would say 12 or 13. Exactly because he's if the generators [01:30:48] work and he's willing to give their teen, we put the minimum bid at 11. Then that's what they're going to go Speaker 1: for. Speaker 11: Well, do we as we put this out? Are you are you putting it out mentioning the Speaker 5: generator or do you want [01:31:03] to hold off until we see? I am I put it right out there that the generator runs like Speaker 7: a champ for 35 minutes and then shuts it Speaker 11: off. Well then I think maybe we ought to Speaker 3: We Speaker 11: could see if that's going to be the problem before you put the bit out Speaker 2: again, then we have to have a special meeting to get [01:31:18] this in a time for Speaker 8: July. Well we have been dealing with the generator. Speaker 13: For a long, long time. Well, how soon can can can Bob and rust get out there to [01:31:33] look at this generator. They are both retired. Speaker 2: Ross, when do you want to Speaker 11: go? I do get a hold of me, I mean whatever morning. I'm tomorrow morning. [01:31:48] I've got to go to the dentist. I'm busy tomorrow morning. But what about tomorrow afternoon? I won't be home tomorrow afternoon either. I'm thinking I'm thinking, I got to look at the counter. You can as you get old, all you do is go to doctors [01:32:03] appointments, but I can give you a call. I don't know if I can, I can tell you the second, if I think down for Friday, morning. Speaker 2: Now, I know I've got a doctor's in Friday morning, but Friday afternoon, I'm good cause we [01:32:18] got to get this particular Mission or so we can Speaker 8: meet Mission with the permission of the person Speaker 7: who seconded the motion. Speaker 8: Like to modify my motion that we would offer Speaker 7: for a minimum bid Speaker 8: 11. If the generator is not fixed and 13, [01:32:33] if it Speaker 12: is Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm okay with that Steve. All right, so Speaker 8: so we've modified that Speaker 14: motion caring. Yeah you got that? Yeah. Speaker 8: All right. Any other discussion? I'm going to do business. Speaker 1: [01:32:50] All right, Bob, what's your pleasure? Hi Speaker 12: Mike. Hi Speaker 1: Kevin, hi Speaker 4: Ross, all right, Speaker 8: I vote, aye as well. That motion carries. I have Speaker 7: contact information for this gentleman and I will notify [01:33:05] him of the Speaker 8: situation. I will repost me on Speaker 1: Craigslist Speaker 8: and we will proceed accordingly. Speaker 1: All right, Speaker 7: [01:33:20] all business. If I missed Speaker 1: anything. New business having Speaker 2: Ronson and email out about the lawn mowing. Speaker 7: [01:33:35] Yeah, I'm in contact with the Speaker 8: agency, I will get what we Speaker 2: need. Okay. And I have a question for Ron on that. Does that document cover us for liability and workers Speaker 4: comp? Speaker 2: Yes. Okay, [01:33:50] I'm good. Steve. All right. Yeah, I'm on Speaker 5: that. Speaker 7: Anybody else old business new business? Anything from Speaker 8: the public out there, we've got some people from the Speaker 7: public Elliott or Tony [01:34:05] or rights, all I Speaker 6: see. Speaker 1: Going once Tony. Going twice. Elliot? Speaker 5: Yeah. Do we do we Speaker 7: have anything on Speaker 5: [01:34:21] anything more? Specific on Falls Village? I guess not yet. Do we? Yeah, I have a Speaker 13: question. Speaker 5: Okay. Well, Elliot Elliot was going. Let's let Elliot go and then Speaker 7: if you can, if you can address Speaker 13: Elliot Elliot, [01:34:36] here's what I did Elliot. I I sent an email out to Andrea Downs instead of saw that instead of us picking a date and say okay we're good to go. [01:34:51] Yeah I figured let's get some dates from them, right? So What I have? Who I haven't heard back from is Mike and Keith, okay? So I'm going to set up. I'll contact them [01:35:06] within the next day or so and And see what they're available for so Saturdays. Okay, with them out there we can meet with their h e. So it might be a Saturday morning [01:35:21] and I know Father's Day weekend is coming up and then we got July 4th weekend, coming up so we'll see how it goes. But I figured we reach out to Andrea first just to make sure it's okay [01:35:36] and what's available for them before we say hey we're coming out on this date and they're going to go. Yeah like no that's not gonna happen. All right. So we're moving it. It's just a slow. You said it would be what either, Speaker 7: [01:35:51] maybe a Tuesday, evening or Thursday evening, is that what you said, Speaker 13: right? Because she said, Mondays and Thursdays or not good for them or a Saturday morning, Elliot Okay, [01:36:07] either Keith or Mike should probably be with us too. Oh yeah for sure right. So once again I haven't heard back from them so I'll reach out to them within the next day or two and I'll get back to everybody [01:36:22] who don't have any kind of Speaker 14: schedule from McCormick about when he's going to come through with a report. Do we Speaker 13: know? And once again, I'll reach out to him that came up to reach out to you. You know what? Their time frame is on that. [01:36:37] Okay. Sounds good. Thank you. Okay, you're welcome. Speaker 5: All right, Tony. What do you got? Speaker 7: So Steve, I was Speaker 13: just Backtrack on that else. That loss at Speaker 8: change if they The increased to Speaker 7: 1100 is a contribution [01:36:52] from The District in, or from the Speaker 1: person and Speaker 5: is from the district. Speaker 13: So, so, the Speaker 7: state allows you to do that much. Speaker 8: And if the Votes it in then the district is going to start contributing 1100 [01:37:07] a year. Speaker 1: If if the Speaker 7: district resolves it and the public passes the resolution. Then anyone who makes his 50 points under the defined contribution plan would have up to Speaker 5: [01:37:22] 12 hundred dollars contributed to his account. The years that he made those points, okay, regarding the class, someone Speaker 8: wants a certificate. So when I take this and I don't even know if this is going to plan. Me anyway, but I'm just suggesting you don't get a certificate at work. I get an [01:37:37] email that says Speaker 7: thank you for completing Speaker 8: this course. Someone could print that out and give it to you if they needed to. So it isn't going to be some HR official certificate. You're going to get from a company in my case, anyway. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 7: And then [01:37:52] this vehicle is being Speaker 8: sold. Is that the rehab unit or is that another Speaker 1: vehicle rehab Speaker 8: are really. They're getting rid of the rehab. What did they pay for that when they bought Speaker 5: it? A lot of money? My Speaker 8: recollection. And why are they getting rid of it? It's a Speaker 2: don't like it anymore. Speaker 5: [01:38:07] It's not getting used enough and it's and it's and it's a drag on expenses. It doesn't fit in the Speaker 1: firehouse. Speaker 5: There's just a lot of issues Speaker 7: and there is no intention of replacing [01:38:22] it later Speaker 5: on. Well we're buying a used Speaker 1: ambulance Speaker 5: from Sharon fire department for 30 thousand dollars which is a Speaker 1: bargain. Speaker 5: [01:38:37] The old ambulance would not be a food truck but would be a rehabilitation / Decon vehicle and carry some extra supplies to a fire. So if we can get 13 Speaker 7: [01:38:53] for the rehab, Paying thirty thousand for an ambulance and miscellaneous expenses. Speaker 1: We're going to Speaker 5: be out of problem vehicle. We're going to have an improved ambulance and we're going to have it as a, an extra vehicle to carry such supplies to [01:39:08] a scene for maybe a total net. Outlay of, let's just for argument's sake, call it twenty to twenty-five thousand dollars. I think if Speaker 8: the net cost of the other ambulance is 15. Speaker 5: If we can, we can buy one for 30 and [01:39:23] sell this truck for 13th at 17 and I okay. Yeah, yeah, Speaker 8: yeah. That's what I meant though today. Speaker 12: Okay, that's it. Speaker 5: All right, anybody else from the public? Hey, Steve [01:39:38] just a quick question. I'm sorry, Speaker 1: I had to step away for a few minutes. I was looking at the agenda, I saw something here. About firearm policy. Speaker 7: Did you talk? Did you skip that? We did not. We did not discuss it [01:39:53] okay. As a point of clarification. I think we settled it without discussing it length at the meeting and rust was instrumental. Speaker 8: Roses. Roses roses a good word Speaker 1: person, [01:40:08] as a point of Speaker 5: information and clarification. Peace officers are not allowed to carry a firearm at the firehouse or have a fire harp a firearm Speaker 1: [01:40:24] on District property, but Law Speaker 5: Officers in the line of duty are. So we just wanted to make that Speaker 2: clarification Steve on that one other thing they're not also not allowed to be responding [01:40:39] with a firearm on their person. Speaker 5: All right, I did not review that with anybody, but that would be Speaker 11: correct. That's in the policy already. It stated there that if they had it, they would have to, [01:40:54] I think they said they had believed in your personal vehicle. He can't take it to a Speaker 6: scene. Speaker 5: All right. I'd like I said, that was not a point of discussion that Speaker 8: was not the point of the discussion I had. But that is in the policy Speaker 2: you might want to remind them. [01:41:09] Okay? Speaker 7: Steve, add one more question Speaker 13: on intent of that class. So Speaker 7: if I volunteered for the lobster dinner they may say, you got to take the class Speaker 8: or show proof, you took it Speaker 7: but the annual vote you do that. I volunteer for means Speaker 2: what Speaker 5: [01:41:26] you know, for voting I'm the annual vote Speaker 1: what Speaker 7: this class that you're going to make people Speaker 8: take for harassment or whatever whatever. Speaker 2: If I heard you have discussions Speaker 7: [01:41:41] about if someone comes and volunteers Speaker 8: will fire district, they could be required to take it or show proof, they took it. Well, Speaker 7: we pretty much Speaker 9: decided that Your behavior is not in our purview and if that if you [01:41:56] had a few out of hand, we would simply ask you to leave. Speaker 13: Okay? Okay. All right, fine. So then never mind that then I don't have the Speaker 8: second part which was the voting like when we cover voting in December, Speaker 2: what's that? Yeah that's a rod [01:42:11] that's we missed something Tony's got a good point at that I'm gonna win at that point. He's an employee of the district because we're Speaker 5: He's a hired contractor. Speaker 7: Yeah, my hired contractor. [01:42:26] I Speaker 1: have my own policies as long as I don't disrespect and rot. Speaker 4: Well, if you're saying that every employee has to do with you, they would be included. You could have, he would carve them out. If you wanted to, Speaker 1: [01:42:42] we pay them Speaker 8: $30 to sit there for three or forty dollars or whatever. It is to seven sit there for three hours Speaker 5: and we're going to add sexual harassment and workplace violence at to our module on top of that. Speaker 2: It's not punitive Speaker 13: actually it [01:42:57] was about six hours. Speaker 2: Steve, it's not a punitive, Speaker 7: it's Some pliability you're not going to get anybody to do Speaker 2: it. Yeah, I hear you but it's a district liability. If we're not liable, then no problem. [01:43:12] If we have liability, then we need to talk about it. Speaker 4: Yeah. You don't need to require them to take it. Your obligation is only, you have to offer it. All right, well, okay, you've gone beyond that. Are it is for [01:43:27] other individuals and that's, that's fine, but as you need to do there for everybody, Okay, and Speaker 7: Steve, your point is the point. If you Speaker 8: put it too burdensome you're not going to get people to volunteer, right? Speaker 2: So Steve we have [01:43:42] have to Speaker 8: offer it up and get ready to Speaker 2: hold it. We employ in the Speaker 11: district Speaker 2: purview, okay? Have the available. Speaker 8: Alright. Alright. Any other information or Mike I Speaker 1: need you? Speaker 2: [01:43:58] My mind is battery. Quit, I just got an email, a text from Bob Simon, they lost communication. Speaker 7: So I would move we adjourn. I need a Speaker 13: second. Beckett. Speaker 1: Okay. Kevin. What's your Speaker 12: pleasure? [01:44:13] Hi Speaker 1: Bob. Hi Russ. All right like a wall. Speaker 7: I've organized. Well the motion carries. Thank you gentlemen. Have a good night. I will check with the Speaker 11: [01:44:28] church you on. Speaker 8: You have a question. Speaker 1: So we can record the meetings and I don't Speaker 5: know what else is going on, but thank you. That was [01:44:43] productive Speaker 1: meeting. All Speaker 6: right.